• @[email protected]
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    1710 hours ago

    The stats of surviving in a plane are quite high.

    The stats of surviving in a plane with at least one death are very low.

    Usually, if anyone dies, everyone dies.

    • @[email protected]
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      159 hours ago

      No, people die on planes all the time. Almost 3 million people fly daily, I’m guessing people die in flight almost every day due to natural causes.

      However, I’m sure the stats with 2+ people dying, survival odds are quite low.

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        108 hours ago

        Honestly I wasn’t going to bother specifying this but yes obviously you’re correct. Alternatively it can be thought of as, “in a plane accident, if anyone dies, usually everyone dies”

    • Troy
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      Almost certainly true of ocean landings. But I’ve spent a lot of time in bush planes (no crashes, knock on wood). I’ve had colleagues survive crashes where others have died. Perhaps it is sample bias, or something particularly about remote crashes.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Air_Flight_6560 – two of the survivors were in the back, both working for our company. After the crash: one never returned, one just quiet quit over the next year or two.

      https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/yellowknife-plane-crash-kills-2-people-1.987369 – this plane crashed into our office building, killing the pilots, but the passengers all survived. I wasn’t there, but coworkers would often describe the experience inside the building.

      It happens often enough that I have two examples where I’m only one degree of separation.

      I had two colleagues survive a helicopter crash into a lake at full speed (calm day, no waves, pilot lost track of where the surface was) – one of my coworked was ejected out the front window of the helicopter (seatbelt was on). Didn’t even warrant a news story. But everyone survived this one, which may be a data point in your favour.

      I don’t have an actual source for stats. Got anything?

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        Jesus Christ what kind of work do you do

        As far as source, my ass. I heard it somewhere else (talking about commercial airliners) and it passed the smell test

        • Troy
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          68 hours ago

          At the time, arctic mineral exploration. However I blew out my knee and started a business with lower personal risk (equipment targeting the same market) ;)

          Free photo – me doing science in the arctic in winter (February, so the sun is up) with curious caribou checking it out

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              27 hours ago

              Kind of. My own business will probably needs to hire a tech sometime in the next six months. Ideally someone technically inclined with a steady hand (who can be trained to solder connectors onto cables, etc.)

              Oh, the arctic exploration stuff? My old employer is Aurora Geoscience – they have a careers page. There are others like them, depending on your citizenship and location. Many of these companies will hire labourers and semi-skilled technicians who want the lifestyle. You won’t get paid a lot – but it’s kind of like the military experience without the guns and you come out knowing how to do a lot of shit. A good life experience. :)

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                24 hours ago

                I wish I had known about that when I was younger. I would have done that instead of the military.

    • Zos_Kia
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      29 hours ago

      It’s like in poker, show one, show all