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    Yeah, tell me how well applying this to anyone voting for Trump goes in a couple of years. If you have a moral high ground but didn’t achieve anything then is it something you’re interested in?

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      ok. enlightment how to have a civil debate with people that wants to blame all their problems on people purely based on their birth characteristics?

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        For starters, by not assuming every single one of them blames all their problems on people purely based on their birth characteristics. Treat them with no prejudice. You’re likely prejudiced against lower class people and not even realise it. Listen to what they have to say and see what led them to distrust public institutions, what are their troubles and priorities.

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          I get their distrust. I dont get why they would put their trust in a person that is very much the embodiment of the reason for the distrust.

          Why do you say i have prejudice against lower class? Most the ones i know thag support him are higher class than me.

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            119 hours ago

            Most the ones i know that support him are higher class than me.

            Statistically this is not a representative group.

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                  Probably. I cant fathom why anyone rational sees trump being the solution to their problems even if he was the solution, it would be the demise of millions of americans.

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                    So, not much is changing then but you assumed history can only move forward. We’ve reached a point where this belief is pretty much a modern secular religion - nobody guaranteed it would be so. This religion even has prophets like Francis Fukuyama who I blame for popularising it.

                    It’s likely we will be set back again many times and there’s no guarantee that the end result will be satisfying. The best thing we can do for now is to figure out why those things happen in the first place without attributing blame. The future needs to include everyone, even the bigots. My guess most of the bigots wouldn’t be bigots if they had higher participation in profits that our societies generate. This is because politicians funnel those into the pockets of various oligarchs. Neither Republicans or Dems will fix that unfortunately.