But WHY are you? Are you afraid your mom will ground you or your parish priest will frown at you if they found out that you don’t needlessly self-censor?
That’s not comparable. On the contrary, I’d argue overly relying on swear words (as is the case in today’s society) significantly reduces the richness of your vocabulary.
In any case, nobody is forcing you to self-censer, so why impose your opinion onto others?
It very much is. Just saying “nuh-uh” doesn’t make it any less so.
If you prefer, though, you can think of it as a craftsman refusing to use a tool because his mom told him not to, even if that tool is the best one for specific parts of the job.
On the contrary, I’d argue overly relying on swear words (…)
Of course. Just like overly relying on playing ONLY the G string would make your guitar playing suck even more than if you only used the other 5.
That’s not a valid argument for avoiding words that are perfectly useful when deployed well, though. Especially not when it leads to the mangling almost beyond recognition of a perfectly descriptive and well-known neologism such as enshittification.
(as is the case in today’s society)
…how fucking old and stuck in your ways are you??
I’m in my 40s and I haven’t met anyone who’s not either my parents’ age or older, or ridiculously conservative who thinks “the kids today swear too much” lol.
If anything, people self-censor much MORE than they did a decade or two ago when social media and people trying to promote themselves while desperately avoiding offending anyone’s delicate sensibilities wasn’t so ubiquitous.
significantly reduces the richness of your vocabulary.
On the contrary, people who swear have consistently been shown to have much larger vocabularies of not just swears, but all other words too.
In any case, nobody is forcing you to self-censer, so why impose your opinion onto others?
Nobody’s forcing you to object to my objection to unnecessary and linguistically ruinous censorship, so why impose YOUR opinion on ME?
Maybe because Lemmy is, amongst other things, a collection of discussion forums where sharing your opinions and discussing them with others is the POINT? That’s my reason, anyway.
Notice how neither the OP, nor anyone else asked for your unnecessary objection. So it’s very much you forcing yourself and your unwanted opinions wherever you feel like.
You don’t bring anything to the discussion on this forum. You instead change the topic to nitpick on someone’s wording, completely disrespecting their argument.
I mention “today’s society” because this push to force everyone to swear (or make them feel bad for not doing so) is a recent development I noticed on this platform in particular.
It’s also ironic how you seemingly argue for freedom of expression, yet can’t fathom that someone wants to use language in a way that differs from you.
I’d recommend working on your impulse control. Though it feels like you just like to hear yourself talk. Just let other people be.
Notice how neither the OP, nor anyone else asked for your unnecessary objection. So it’s very much you forcing yourself and your unwanted opinions wherever you feel like.
Says the person who injected themself into the conversation over 24h later when everyone else had moved on 🙄
You don’t bring anything to the discussion on this forum. You instead change the topic to nitpick on someone’s wording, completely disrespecting their argument.
Again, my stance against self-censorship is well-funded and thoroughly explained. It’s not just a completely subjective pet peeve of mine that I’ve decided to foist on anyone, much less nitpicking, try as you might to make it appear so.
As for “completely disrespecting their argument”, not every argument deserves respect, and “I’m gonna mangle a perfectly good word due to the not at all certain possibility of external censorship” is barely a justification, much less a valid argument for the necessity of such a mangling.
It’s also ironic how you seemingly argue for freedom of expression, yet can’t fathom that someone wants to use language in a way that differs from you.
Yeah, because saying that censorship getting in the way of free expression is bad is censorship! Give me a fucking break 🤦
I’d recommend working on your impulse control. Though it feels like you just like to hear yourself talk.
Again with the projection.
I’m not the one who inserted myself into a conversation that was already over. That was you.
I’m also not the one who has nothing to say except “I don’t like your perspective” and I haven’t tried to forbid anyone from anything. That’s also you.
Doesn’t it get exhausting in the long run to be such a tryhard hypocrite protector of the unvictimized?
Imagine thinking “shit” is so offensive that it should be censored.
Not only has the word as we know it today been used since the 14th century, it was a similar word for so long before that, it was a word that split into two words when English and German separated. Originally, it was ‘skit,’ which evolved into ‘shit’ in English and Scheiße in German.
“Shit” or its variants have been used from classic authors as varied as Geoffrey Chaucer, Ben Johnson and Johnathan Swift.
I mean I can make similar arguments about ‘fuck,’ but at least you can put that up to sex prudishness.
Their home instance doesn’t even ban swear words, they probably just misinterpreted the “no slurs” rule. The first rule is “don’t be a dick”, so banning swearing would be an odd choice.
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But WHY are you? Are you afraid your mom will ground you or your parish priest will frown at you if they found out that you don’t needlessly self-censor?
Why won’t you let people use language the way they want.
Because censoring yourself needlessly like that constrains language, making it narrower and less useful for no good reason.
It’s the equivalent of playing the guitar using only 5 strings because some authority figure told you that the G string is “dirty” or whatever.
That’s not comparable. On the contrary, I’d argue overly relying on swear words (as is the case in today’s society) significantly reduces the richness of your vocabulary.
In any case, nobody is forcing you to self-censer, so why impose your opinion onto others?
It very much is. Just saying “nuh-uh” doesn’t make it any less so.
If you prefer, though, you can think of it as a craftsman refusing to use a tool because his mom told him not to, even if that tool is the best one for specific parts of the job.
Of course. Just like overly relying on playing ONLY the G string would make your guitar playing suck even more than if you only used the other 5.
That’s not a valid argument for avoiding words that are perfectly useful when deployed well, though. Especially not when it leads to the mangling almost beyond recognition of a perfectly descriptive and well-known neologism such as enshittification.
…how fucking old and stuck in your ways are you??
I’m in my 40s and I haven’t met anyone who’s not either my parents’ age or older, or ridiculously conservative who thinks “the kids today swear too much” lol.
If anything, people self-censor much MORE than they did a decade or two ago when social media and people trying to promote themselves while desperately avoiding offending anyone’s delicate sensibilities wasn’t so ubiquitous.
On the contrary, people who swear have consistently been shown to have much larger vocabularies of not just swears, but all other words too.
Nobody’s forcing you to object to my objection to unnecessary and linguistically ruinous censorship, so why impose YOUR opinion on ME?
Maybe because Lemmy is, amongst other things, a collection of discussion forums where sharing your opinions and discussing them with others is the POINT? That’s my reason, anyway.
That and because I sometimes have poor impulse control when someone is wrong on the internet
Notice how neither the OP, nor anyone else asked for your unnecessary objection. So it’s very much you forcing yourself and your unwanted opinions wherever you feel like.
You don’t bring anything to the discussion on this forum. You instead change the topic to nitpick on someone’s wording, completely disrespecting their argument.
I mention “today’s society” because this push to force everyone to swear (or make them feel bad for not doing so) is a recent development I noticed on this platform in particular.
It’s also ironic how you seemingly argue for freedom of expression, yet can’t fathom that someone wants to use language in a way that differs from you.
I’d recommend working on your impulse control. Though it feels like you just like to hear yourself talk. Just let other people be.
Says the person who injected themself into the conversation over 24h later when everyone else had moved on 🙄
Again, my stance against self-censorship is well-funded and thoroughly explained. It’s not just a completely subjective pet peeve of mine that I’ve decided to foist on anyone, much less nitpicking, try as you might to make it appear so.
As for “completely disrespecting their argument”, not every argument deserves respect, and “I’m gonna mangle a perfectly good word due to the not at all certain possibility of external censorship” is barely a justification, much less a valid argument for the necessity of such a mangling.
Yeah, because saying that censorship getting in the way of free expression is bad is censorship! Give me a fucking break 🤦
Again with the projection.
I’m not the one who inserted myself into a conversation that was already over. That was you.
I’m also not the one who has nothing to say except “I don’t like your perspective” and I haven’t tried to forbid anyone from anything. That’s also you.
Doesn’t it get exhausting in the long run to be such a tryhard hypocrite protector of the unvictimized?
Because of community and instance rules.
Neither of those ban swears, maybe you misunderstood the no slurs rule.
Sh.atjust.worksStupid fucking instance
Imagine thinking “shit” is so offensive that it should be censored.
Not only has the word as we know it today been used since the 14th century, it was a similar word for so long before that, it was a word that split into two words when English and German separated. Originally, it was ‘skit,’ which evolved into ‘shit’ in English and Scheiße in German.
“Shit” or its variants have been used from classic authors as varied as Geoffrey Chaucer, Ben Johnson and Johnathan Swift.
I mean I can make similar arguments about ‘fuck,’ but at least you can put that up to sex prudishness.
You know your shit.
Historical shit is my kind of shit.
Their home instance doesn’t even ban swear words, they probably just misinterpreted the “no slurs” rule. The first rule is “don’t be a dick”, so banning swearing would be an odd choice.
I know for a fact that this community doesn’t ban saying shit, so I guess his instance must suck big floppy donkey dick 🤷