Muhammad Hassam Ali, 17, was killed by stranger after a four-minute conversation in city centre

Summary

A 15-year-old boy was sentenced to life in prison for fatally stabbing a stranger, Muhammad Hassam Ali, after a brief conversation in Birmingham city center. The second boy, who stood by, was sentenced to five years in secure accommodation. Ali’s family expressed their grief, describing him as a budding engineer whose life was tragically cut short.

  • @[email protected]English
    15•1 day ago

    A youth justice system is for dealing with kids and teens who shoplift, or break noise ordinances, or run away from home, or abuse illicit substances, or any number of “boundary exploring” behaviors.

    A youth justice system is not the appropriate venue for dealing with “kids” so lacking in moral fiber as to deliberately and maliciously kill another person.

    If you’re distinguishing by the type of offense instead of by age, you don’t have a youth justice system, you have a minor offense justice system.
    Distinguishing by the severity of the offense is already part of the justice system.
    Youth justice systems explicitly consider the age and maturity of the offender, not just what they did.
    Also I’m not sure why a 15-year-old is a kid in one of your examples and a “kid” in the other.

    The tolerance we have for “youthful indiscretion” does not and should not extend to this degree of violence. A youth justice system is not an appropriate venue for those determined to be fundamentally irredeemable.

    This is not about tolerating behavior, it’s about reforming people to become members of society instead of lifelong burdens for the justice system.
    Despite the severity of his action, brandishing kids as “irredeemable” not only throws away their entire future but also burdens everyone else with keeping them contained forever.
    That profits nobody.