• @[email protected]
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    I hate to say it but dismissing these people like that is how the Dems got here.

    This is someone who wants things to be better. They’re pro-union because they want someone to fight for their rights. And they’re pro-Trump because all four years of the Dems has done for them is make prices higher. The Dems have been crowing about how the economy is doing better than ever, but for people like this it’s not. GDP and the Fortune 500 being up is great for investors, but it’s not great for an average worker. For an average worker, things are worse than ever.

    They don’t know that much about what Trump stands for, but they know he stands for “something other than this.” And for these people - for the vast majority of people today - “this” isn’t working.

    The Dems need to reach voters like this, and they absolutely can. These people aren’t for fascism, they just don’t believe that that’s what they’re voting for. They believe they’re voting for change, and Trump is the only person offering them change. What the Dems offered them was “more of the same”, and that’s not an appealing offer to people who are drowning.

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      My dude you are not wrong - but how do you talk to these people about policy nuances and compromise to get things done if THEY’RE the ones being dismissive about things and rejecting objective reality? I get that they’re not doing well. That doesn’t mean that anyone (including Trump) can wave a magic wand and make things better. It seems to me the only way to win these voters over is to play the Republican game - get your own propaganda arm for your political party and yell and lie louder than the Republicans.

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        You’re skipping right past the really simple thing that so few of the Dems; tell them that they’re right.

        These people are hurting, and both Harris and Biden simply told them “No you’re not, look how high the NASDAQ is.”

        That’s a bullshit way to treat someone when they’re struggling and asking for help. The simplest thing to do is just to say “Yes, you’re right, shit fucking sucks and we need to make it better.”

        That’s why people love Bernie. That’s why there’s such a huge crossover in people who voted for Trump and people who voted for AOC. Cortez doesn’t bullshit people. She knows they’re hurting, she knows they’re poorer now than they were four years ago and she says it.

        This is what Bernie means when he says the Dems have abandoned the working class. The crazy part is, Biden was actually great for unions. The NLRB under his tenure oversaw one of the largest expansions in union membership in US history. But instead of talking about that they talked about how great people’s fucking investment portfolios are doing. That doesn’t mean shit to people who can’t afford a fucking investment portfolio.

        Before they worry about selling people on the details of the plan, the Dems could start by just addressing their problems, instead of telling them they don’t have any problems.