I know we all want to believe Russia’s economy is way worse than ever and almost back in the stone age by now, but if you look at the long term, unfortunately it’s not that dramatic…
You are both correct. A decade is a perfectly acceptable time frame by which to judge forex, however the two decade window fills in additional context.
One narrative is about effectiveness of sanctions, specifically the ones levied at the start of 2022. Zooming out beyond 2015 doesn’t really change that narrative (no appreciable effect tied with a change that happened in 2022).
The other narrative relates to Russia’s big picture strategy. Undoubtedly by this measure, Russia is underperforming. We might conclude that the sanctions was effective only once, in 2014. Or just a bad economy for another reason that spurred war.
Their economy was never good. Many more people living there than in Germany, much larger country than Germany… And still economically worse than Germany…
I know we all want to believe Russia’s economy is way worse than ever and almost back in the stone age by now, but if you look at the long term, unfortunately it’s not that dramatic…
Perfect crop, comrade 🤡
You are both correct. A decade is a perfectly acceptable time frame by which to judge forex, however the two decade window fills in additional context.
True, but the way I see it, a graph shouldn’t be cropped and left without a labeled y axis, especially when making a point about long term-ness.
One narrative is about effectiveness of sanctions, specifically the ones levied at the start of 2022. Zooming out beyond 2015 doesn’t really change that narrative (no appreciable effect tied with a change that happened in 2022).
The other narrative relates to Russia’s big picture strategy. Undoubtedly by this measure, Russia is underperforming. We might conclude that the sanctions was effective only once, in 2014. Or just a bad economy for another reason that spurred war.
This guy graphs
The issue is the crop has obliterated the starting value
So… basically when Crimea got stolen? I forget if that was also US sanctions, my selections memory remembers we were too soft on them back then.
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Yeah but this clearly isn’t as a consequence of the war
Crimea was invaded in 2014.
Please tell us what happened in 2014…
A ten year steady decline in the currency of a “world power” is no big deal. 👍
Yeah, the message I get is that a 10% one-day decline doesn’t look like much on the tail end of 70% losses. Worthless paper is worthless.
Russia has the same economy as Italy. We take them only seriously because of their nuclear weapons.
As an Italian… Not sure if proud or embarrassed…
You’ve got way better food though. How many Russian restaurants do you see around the world?
I had one in the city that going by reviews was quite good
Now it’s a very nice Chinese restaurant.
Sorry….😢
Actually, it’s not. But it’s not a world power either.
And a large decline in a single day, smaller than that steady decline in a decade can be quite a big deal. Or can be nothing. Nobody knows.
According to some social media bubbles, it should have dropped to 1/10 in the past 2 years.
According to some social media bubbles the world is flat and Xenu populated the earth
Ah, the kremlin talking points “look your measures doesn’t work!!1! (So can you remove them, ok?)”
Nobody thought the ruble would crash one or two years ago.
But well, now is now and it looks like the funds have been used up, the inflation is at its maximum utility etc etc and now it’s crash time!
No fair you’re not allowed to provide context
What? I don’t get how it disproves the graph from the other commenter or anything else
Edit: Oh I thought they were saying the first graph depicts it as worse than it is but it was the other way around which makes much more sense
The other commenter cropped their image right before the last massive drop in 2015
By inverting the transaction it more clearly shows the trend between the two currencies.
Maybe if you don’t understand basic math? Those charts are just reciprocals
That is literally illegal on the internet.
Why would you argue with a banana? You’re obviously not a banana.
Perfect crop, comrade 🤡
They cropped out the banana.
“comrade”?
Are you implying that Russia is in any way more communist or less capitalist than the US?
Cause you’d be wrong.
If I call a colleague a “cumrade” I’m not implying they are some sort of cum-flavoured soda drink.
Why’d they add coconut?
I mean, it being as low as it once was doesn’t mean it is going great.
An interest rate of 21% is also not an indication of things going great.
Your graph lacks any context. What is the Y axis?
It literally says in the title of the chart it’s rubles per dollar graphed over time
https://feddit.org/pictrs/image/bb4d4926-8385-44fd-b587-d5798b8e00e0.png
Where?
It’s pretty dramatic. Interest rates, currency in freefall, no exports, imports too expensive, morgages failing, salaries dropping, brain drain, …
It’s pretty bad. They have some ways to go, the war chest is not empty, they can continue to print money they can hold of for another two years maybe.
We will see what trump does. But they are in a world of hurt no matter what happens next.
Their economy was never good. Many more people living there than in Germany, much larger country than Germany… And still economically worse than Germany…
They have the same economy as Italy.
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