• Emberleaf
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    1 month ago

    When a person or entity is responsible for the untimely deaths of literally thousands of American citizens, the question should be whether or not this was a justifiable homicide. Is a police officer put on trial for shooting and killing a gunman mowing down children at a school? Why is this case different?

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        41 month ago

        It would ultimately depend on the context but sure. “Innocent” Germans were put on trial post WW2 for enabling the system that resulted in the murder of millions of people, how is this any different?

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          81 month ago

          I think you’re misinterpreting the comment. Police officers in the US are regularly not put on trial even for egregious killings. They’re getting trial more often after the BLM protests, but they’re still usually getting found not guilty because we’re inundated with copaganda.

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            31 month ago

            True. Worth noting as bad as police are most countries outside of America actually have civilian oversight of the police. You can argue the effectiveness of it but it’s lightyears ahead of the lack of training and corruption that America faces.

    • osaerisxero
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      171 month ago

      If they went with justifiable homicide they could have gotten an easy conviction. Instead they went with terrorism and Murder 1, both of which there is too much sympathy for.

    • @[email protected]
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      61 month ago

      I’m not disagreeing with your sentiment but legally speaking that’s a completely different situation. The main difference is the immediacy and nature of anticipated harm.

      Again, not challenging your take on it, just highlighting that the law doesn’t see it that way.

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          11 month ago

          Again, I appreciate the sentiment but that’s not really what ‘immediate’ means in this context.

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            11 month ago

            If I was a juror I wouldn’t buy that for a second. That CEO was actively killing people.

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              128 days ago

              Again, not disagreeing with the sentiment, but legally he WASN’T actively killing people. Nobody was in any immediate danger. That means physically and temporally immediate. That means the defences and laws that are relevant are entirely different. That’s just how it works and how the law is set up.

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                128 days ago

                Sure but the law includes interpretation by jurors too, and in reality he was an immediate threat. I’m not going to put a man in prison because of a definition that’s clearly wrong.

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                  128 days ago

                  The jurors have discretion, yes, but that doesn’t kick in at the jury vetting stage. Again, I get the sentiment, but that’s just the way it works.

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                    128 days ago

                    I’m sorry if I implied that jurors interpreting the law “kicks in” during jury vetting. I’m not actually sure what that means.