• @[email protected]
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    31 day ago

    Those powerful individuals, however, were chosen by the citizens. (Assuming the system you’re talking about is a democracy.)

    • @[email protected]OP
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      81 day ago

      Out of an extremely limited pool where often our best option is the lesser evil.

      Democracy in any current implementation is hardly democratic.

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        How is the German democracy hardly democratic?

        Because abolishing democracy is not an available option? Is that what a system needs to be considered democratic?

        I understand why USAmericans think of their system as hardly democratic, but that’s not the only type of democracy that exists.

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          I don’t know why Euros always assume everyone is American.

          And how is it? Do your leaders reflect your views entirely or is it chock full of compromises you don’t have to make on your end?

          The only real democracy is direct democracy, not party politics.

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            Our leaders are a mix of three different parties because not all German people have the same opinions.

            Yes, our leaders are a compromise between left-leaning voters and right-leaning voters. Respecting more people’s votes makes the country more democratic, not less.

            If your question is about whether the people have free choice or if they can only choose one of the six parties currently in the Bundestag, the answer is the former. Little story:

            Under Merkel, all German parties moved to be more migrant-friendly, until even Merkel’s conservative party (the most right wing party at the time) was largely okay with migration.

            However, there are many anti-migration voters in Germany. So what did they do? Did they say “oh, we only have these five options, guess there’s no way I can vote against migration”? No, they founded a new party, the AfD, to be anti migration. This party quickly got into the Bundestag and rose to be a major party now.

            Upon seeing the popularity of anti-migration policies, some of the other parties now shift torwards more anti-migration policies, too.

            The German people have plenty of choice, and if a popular topic is ever not represented by the popular parties, it can quickly be made represented again.

            (The reason I was assuming USA btw, is because another comment mentioned America. Also the USA is an easy example of a less democratic democracy.)

          • @[email protected]
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            11 day ago

            You just asdumed the person talking about German politics to be european, so theres that I guess.

    • Deacon
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      21 day ago

      We’re not talking about hypothetical individuals. This is a discussion of the present reality. In most of the developed world, but certainly in America.

    • @Semjaza
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      11 day ago

      The more power they are given, the more they will use to get more power for them and their mates.

      Any system where people are given power over others will inevitably tend to absolutism by the ruling clique unless the people agitate against it. Not simply participate in the system as given as systems are inevitably co-opted.