• shottymcb@lemm.ee
    10·
    1 year ago

    Liberals not voting is the problem with the US. We sure as fuck aren’t getting national ranked choice voting out of the party of fascism. We aren’t getting any Democrat favored legislation without a clear majority. Not a ‘well the VP can be the tiebreaker in the senate if the 2 right leaning Democrats agree to it’ majority. Not even a ‘well as long as Joe Lieberman goes along we can break the filibuster’ majority is good enough.

    Republicans need to be made utterly unelectable before a left leaning party can be viable.

      • mozz@mbin.grits.devOP
        8·
        1 year ago

        They are not mutually exclusive. You can advocate for reform to the voting system, which is a massive undertaking which will take quite a long time and a lot of effort and may or may not succeed, while still showing up one day and taking one action which (aggregated together with millions of other people doing the same) may save us from impending fascism.

        If you think that not voting will “incentivize” the institution of ranked choice voting you are living in a pure fantasy world. In this specific election though it will incentivize the creation of a fascist dictatorship. If you thought FPTP voting was bad wait until “the state legislature overrules everyone’s votes” past the post.

          • mozz@mbin.grits.devOP
            2·
            1 year ago

            We need to start a bipartisan voting reform, and we need to vote. Voting right now will fix short term fascism. But only for the period of about 4 years, then we have no immediate guarantee anymore.

            Yeah, 100% agreed. How do I advocate for voting reform? The big thing I’m coming to talking about all this stuff is, I should be doing something besides just bullshitting about it on the internet.

            That’s not what i said.

            Sounds like I misinterpreted “WE have to make this a ballot problem, WE need to incentivize these fucks to care.” – all good. It kinda sounds to me like we’re saying the same thing (and I would add reforming a bunch of things besides the voting system, too). How can I help to make that happen?