Nowadays its all about monetization :/
Lemmy is kinda refreshing and reminds me a lot of the early internet/reddit.
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As the cycle continues the more niche places will continue to have that feel. Always vigilant for the nuttos but comes with it being a non mainstream community. Good and bad.
Thats the crux of it all. The a lot of the funniest videos 15+ years ago were just random videos on random accounts. There was no monetary incentive, so a lot accounts were just people who luckily captured something funny and uploaded it. Creative stuff felt authentic too, they were not chasing a trend, they were just trying to show off their original skills. I still love a lot of what we have today, but it is getting buried by trend chasers.
Nowadays…
If there is one eternal constant in human history, it’s that every generation inaccurately believes that the problems they face are new.
Human creates thing.
Thing is cool.
Humans exploit thing.
Thing is no longer cool.
Humans reminisce about how cool the thing used to be, and lament the loss of cool.
If Lemmy gets popular enough, it too will be monetized and we’ll al have to find somewhere else to go.
If the future involves big popular mainstream paid instances, it sounds like the fediverse was a success.
Lemmy won’t be what it is now, but our niche instances can still exist.
Just with a lot more communists
Explains why it’s not monetized to shit
Just don’t let a communist government get hold of it.
That’s an oxymoron, comrade!
I don’t think there will ever be a place like the old web again. Lemmy is better than reddit, but lots of the crap from there is just as common here, stuff that really wasn’t as common before. I’m absolutely certain a disturbing amount of people say dumb shit, make spelling mistakes and stuff like that simply to get “interraction”.
Culture changes. The best we can do is keep influencing it for the better, just wherever we’re able.
I can’t speak for everyone, but I post more frequently here than I did on reddit because we gotta get those numbers up.
It hasn’t reached the critical mass for monetization. It’s not ripe for the picking yet.
I was to comment that this realization came to me when I’ve found an antique but active forum about gore, that I can’t access it anymore, and I’m stuck thinking if it’s for the better.
Whenever I feel like this, I just visit https://zombo.com and I feel better. Anything is possible at https://zombo.com.
Where you can do anything! I love that this still exists.
Back in my day the Internet was better, no video, we had to connect with 56k moderns, the hardware cost a fortune, most people were in AOL, we had to upload both ways in the snow, had to wait for titty pics to load one line at a time, and we liked it that way…
You kids today with your tikky Tok and your faces-book don’t understand
I remember trying to pirate Doom at some point in the 90s over a 56k modem. It was a 10mb download. I got shouted at by my parents for tying up the phone line the whole evening but I persisted. Turns out it was just the demo for Doom so I didn’t even pirate it really.
Good times.
I downloaded dude where’s my car over 56k. I’d connect it at the start of the day before leaving for school and then pause the download when I got home so I could play StarCraft online. Took a week to get it, and then it wouldn’t play.
Figuring the file just got corrupted during the download, I wrote a program that would break the file up into segments of n bytes and generate a checksum for each segment into another file, then you could take that file and run it against another copy of the original file and find any segments that were different and generate a patch file.
Surprisingly, the guy hosting the file on IRC was willing to run the executable a random user on IRC asked him to (probably noticed me taking that week to download the movie lol), but then his copy and mine were exact matches. Then, he taught me about codecs and I was watching that shitty quality 500MB movie just a little while later.
Crazy that checksums were the first stop before codecs.
First movie I ever pirated was Spider Man 1 (the Tobey McGuire one). Over dial up. Similar situation, it took days to finish with intermittent downloading. The quality was so shitty it was basically unwatchable, even back then when I hadn’t yet seen 1080p let alone 4k.
800x600 was a respectable screen resolution in those days and people with decent computers ran at 1024x768, which is more vertical pixels than 720p, though 4:3 ratio. That’s not something I’m nostalgic about lol. Winamp could only fit like 30 songs on the screen even if you expanded your playlist to the bottom of the screen (and I have a feeling I might be overestimating it here).
I think the second movie I downloaded was captured by a camcorder in the theatre, including people blocking the view as they walked to and from their seats. Scary Movie iirc.
had to wait for titty pics to load one line at a time, and we liked it that way…
We really did not like that.
Hey, speak for yourself. Some of us did get increasing fun with every pixel loaded, as the same image kept its novelty for like 5 minutes.
Titty pics just hit different when they’re rendered in 16 colors on Windows 3.1.
Not 16-bit color, just 16 colors.
face fetish
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Didn’t be a dipshit. You can’t understand their point?
They’re not talking about technology. They’re talking about creative quality of content.
He’s making a hyperbolic joke.
I know, and I wasn’t taking the statements literally. But the point of the hyperbole was quite clear. Didn’t be a dipshit yourself.
Are you okay? You seem a little confused, and it’s coming our in your comments
Lol, the modern quality comment.
ITT: anon realizes the world doesn’t stop changing for everyone, what once was will soon cease to be
You’ll be alright OP
All is temporary. Change is the only constant.
Except war. War never changes.
No, assassin’s creed gameplay never changes
I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”- Percy Shelley
OP sails off into the west
It’s a cycle we all go through. My “when the internet was good” was when long-form text content ruled, before memes and videos took over. The kids of today will fondly remember the deep fried memes and TikToks from before the human race became functionally extinct.
While I’ll agree the internet has been overrun by shortform shit, calling internet memes uncreative is such a boomer-ass take. This guy is just nostalgia baiting for points.
What points on 4chan?
Brownie points.
From a 4chan premium account
Get enough and eventually you become nonymous
I think you go from Anon to Fam
I think for 4chan any post that doesn’t result in you getting called a slur is considered a +1
Yeah, plenty of Gen Z memes still make me laugh. They’re just in different forms, including some video “templates” where you just slap some captions on characters in the same scene:
- Starship troopers “I’m doing my part” montage interrupted with Tim Robinson “I didn’t do shit!”
- Diary of a Wimpy Kid scene with kids auditioning from by singing Total Eclipse of the Heart, giving way to some kid who’s actually good.
Are they really that different from some high quality gifs or deep fried memes from the late 2010’s, advice animals from the early 2010’s, demotivational posters or absurd flash animations from the 2000’s, or joke websites from the 90’s?
People will always be funny, and some internet jokes will start fresh before being run into the ground. Remember the ones you like, and then forget the ones you don’t.
They’re molding after all
spotlight ruined my humor the latest to do so.
Made this one for all the Anons out there
It’s basically Geocities in the modern world. You can explore rabbit holes, make your own site, and enjoy the wonders of the web of creativity.
Old guy here. Word.
YTMND
Strange this site still exists, thought it would have been well gone by now.
I’ve listened to leekspin for hour at work. It was great to numb my brain against the daily stress. I think my record was 6hours straight.
I’ve been using Protoweb on my 98 computer for some time now. Protoweb is a proxy for a old internet, mainly for old computers. (Not very secure, because http, but it is worth the time travel)
Anyway, it has WarpStream on it. It is basically a Old YouTube recreation, using unusual means to play videos (Flash, RealPlayer, or Windows Media Player.) It has what this guy is looking for. Also it has new videos, but mainly from retro computer YouTube channels.
https://protoweb.org/2023/12/10/warpstream-net-video-streaming-for-retro-pcs/
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Idk about the minus part
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Indeed there are cookbooks. Lots of cookbooks for absolutely anything anyone could ever cook, for any meaning of the word “cook”.
Let 'em cook
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I think that’s the whole point. But before, it was all just a simple Google search away, no SEO in sight. Being capable of surfing the web properly already was at the time THE test to get in, much like private forums often have some kind of interviewing process. It felt a little more nerdy, and well organized, as you actually had to be both things to contribute. As it always was.
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Light the way friend.
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Nice try, FBI agent
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Nice try, KGB spy
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Lasted about as long as the Wild West.
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Eh, 2011 internet was already corporate garbage. The takeover was already finalized by then. The internet died circa 2003.
The internet died when the eternal September started
I memeber… And I’m still salty about it
The Internet died when the second person logged on.
I can only think of that green day song but I imagine you’re meaning something more?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September
The Green Day song is about the lead singer’s father dying when he was 10
I’ve always said the same thing myself: I miss the Internet just there for fun. Now they try to make a living out of it; either in good faith or scamming you.
BackInMyDay.jpg we used the net for looking stuff up. Mozilla 1.0 was faster than gopher and something something altavista web crawler grey hair getOffMyLawn.gif
But it was a special time, back at the uni in 92 and using the 56k link (!!) to play muds/moos on a server in f’n Bosnia. Or read the MTG mailing list. Uh, I mean, do class work. No commercial things even on there really. Before Amazon, Google, Myspace, etc.
Life Internet was so simple back then. None with all these fancy gadgets and instantaneous loading of
pornimages and videos! Just living in the moment, being patient to wait for your favourite Internet material to load for 2 hours!
I remember being excited when people on the television or “irl” would mention anything to do with computers or even the internet.
Like wow mainstream culture is talking about the niche nerd thing that I love!
Now the internet is the mainstream culture.
