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He doesn’t care, he knows that we’re left without another choice, and he’s enjoying the AIPAC money too much
He has been a Zionist for his entire life, I don’t think he needs a bribe to make bad decisions
He doesn’t need one but I’m sure he appreciates it
Young people are divided on Israel/Gaza.
Asked whether or not they sympathize with various groups involved in the war, we found that majorities of young Americans hold sympathy for the Israeli (52% sympathize) and the Palestinian people (56% sympathize), while they have far less sympathy for their governments (29% sympathize with the Israeli government; 32% with the Palestinian government). Seventeen percent (17%) expressed sympathy toward Hamas; for those who were presented with the information in a split sample that Hamas was an Islamist militant group, sympathy dipped to 13%.
When young Americans are asked whether or not they believe Israel’s response so far to the October 7 attack by Hamas has been justified, a plurality indicates that they don’t know (45%). About a fifth (21%) report that Israel’s response was justified with 32% believing it was not justified.
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How do you context button?
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I don’t have that on voyager but it sounds good to have
I don’t know if your intention was to prove their point, but you did.
The point is that some young people are mad about Biden’s policy, some likely support it, but the biggest group isn’t even paying attention.
Politically, that’s grounds for maintaining the status quo.
These people don’t want to understand nuance. They’re polarized and want to be outraged. You can’t stop that.
ahh the nuances of supporting an active genocide. It’s strange that might be polarizing and cause folks to be outraged. Whaddaya gonna do? People need to understand that this is an election year /s
Ahhh. The freedom of making up your own headlines for the purpose of a shared hive is outrage.
And the fact that this is an election year isn’t lost on anyone that knows propaganda when they see it.
34,500 and counting
I’d be careful with relying on poll cross tabs on issues of morality. The sample size is usually too small to tell right from wrong.
Sure, but if Biden is guided by his moral code instead of politics then he has even less reason to care if young people are mad at him.
This is correct, you are being downvoted for being right but the hive mind on here tends to support terrorism & murder as long as they are Muslim and the victims are not Muslim.
This, and the opposite “wow feminists and LGBTQ+ people supporting people who would see them dead” are both woefully awful takes.
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It’s more likely that they don’t vote.
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Biden should get to work in fulfilling his constituents demands, then.
You don’t get to use authoritarianism and then claim your opponent is the authoritarian. Terrible things are happening under Biden, but I should make the terrible things keep happening because if I don’t the terrible things will get worse? Americans are fucked.
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Love the block feature, highly recommend trying.
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Reporter: “Mr President, has the protests forced you to reconsider any of the policies with regard to the region?”
Biden: “No.”
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This logic relies on the entire Jewish population in the US siding with Israel. They dont. What Israel is doing is fucking evil and a lot of people know it, regardless of faith or culture.
There are unfortunately an order of magnitude more non-Jew Zionists than Jew Zionists because its a popular belief in extreme (and not so extreme) Christian ideologies. Something to do with the rapture starting there.
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Your math continues to ignore the large subsection of Jewish Americans who are anti-Zionist.
The other piece the the equation is that he’s under pressure from the right to glass the whole of Gaza. It’s really an unwinnable bind. Save the Palestinians for a few months but throw away the last chance at elections continuing in the US, and then Palestine gets glassed anyway.
So instead Biden will continue to support the genocide until Trump takes over.
It’s the worst outcome for both Palestine and America, and yet the Biden administration continues to choose this horrible path.
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If Biden changes course and ends the genocide, he will not lose the Jewish people, he will only lose the Zionist people. These Zionists are a small sliver of the American electorate.
Of course a change in position would have to be accompanied by a change in propaganda. The onesided pro-Israel rhetoric spewed by him and his press team would have to change to a humanist, anti-war stance. They could start by highlighting some of the atrocities committed by Israel instead of downplaying them. MSNBC and local news would quickly follow suit and pick up the party line. People should be talking about a mass grave with 400 bodies instead of a broken window at Columbia.
Obviously there would be a loud backlash from prominent Zionists, but again in the big scheme of the electorate they matter very little. The current Biden strategy of forfeiting the young, the anti-war, and the Islamic demographics would be significantly worse.
You can call this idea farfetched, but thats only because Biden is so entrenched in his position. I believe it’s the best option to save the Biden presidency and avoid a Trump second term.
Here’s polling to support your points:
Still, I would bet that Israeli supporters in every category skew conservative and probably aren’t going to vote for Biden regardless.
I do agree that he’s trying to ride the fence, and it’s not a good look from either side.
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I’m agreeing with you, but if you look at the demographics, you’ll see there are several categories besides just Palestinians who do not think Israel is justified in their attacks on Gaza.
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But being Jewish doesn’t mean you support Israel or what they are doing. I mean look at Bernie.
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Speaking in terms of the percent of the population doesn’t matter because we don’t use the popular vote to elect the president. We need to see how many of them are in swing states. There’s a good chance the war in Israel will turn Michigan red.
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Exactly. Which is why I discount polls that measure national approval ratings and such. We don’t elect presidents that way, so they’re not valid.
Joe Biden’s Pro Reelection Killer 2K24
He spent about a couple seconds talking about free speech so that he could go on to talk about law and order, which is what he really wanted to emphasize, and that took up the majority of his stupid little speech.
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but he also can’t tolerate violence or bigotry.
Are you sure about that? Because supporting an active genocide kinda makes it seem like he’s ok with violence & bigotry…just not with protesters speaking up against it. If you watch any of the videos from the protest encampments, I think you’ll see that the violence & bigotry is not coming from them.
Biden’s speech begins at the 37:30 mark: https://www.youtube.com/live/AXLjdZbwutY
