• Carighan Maconar
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    686 months ago

    This is just shutting down an already outdated API. Devs should be moving off of it, and now it has a year out set for full removal instead of just being deprecated.

    • @[email protected]
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      6 months ago

      But in typical Google fashion, the replacement is inferior and doesn’t have the same features

      However, there is no replacement for the Goals API that lets Google Fit users set “how many steps and heart points they want to aim for each day.”

      • @[email protected]
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        46 months ago

        Come on now, that’s not just a Google problem and you know it, no need to shit on Google for something damn near every tech company does. Google does their fair share of shitty things, this isn’t really one of them.

      • @[email protected]
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        36 months ago

        Health connect doesn’t set your step count goals, because what it does in the back end (because that’s what it is, the back end API) is set a way to read and write that data.

        The front end, Google Fit, also connects to health connect on the back end. And the Fit app is not given a shutdown here, just the API it also uses in the back end.

        I suspect Google will stop developing Fit, as they kind of already have. However, all these varieties of other apps out there (Fitbit, Withings Health Mate, Samsung Health, MyFitnessPal, etc) can use health connect data, and do allow you to set goals. They use the same data, and now are more interoperable with Health Connect than they were with the Fit API.

      • @[email protected]
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        126 months ago

        Wait until you realize Microsoft actually cares only because they have already analyzed and predicted that this would hurt their bottom line.

        • @[email protected]
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          126 months ago

          History is full of companies who went under because they didn’t analyze and predict what would hurt their bottom line…

      • FalseMyrmidon
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        66 months ago

        AWS also rarely turns off services that customers are using going so far as to support customers using outdated services for years. Of the major cloud providers only Google does this.

    • @[email protected]
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      196 months ago

      Yes, worst clickbait title I’ve seen in a while. Health Connect was announced 2 years ago…

  • @[email protected]
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    406 months ago

    Dang, I just got a heart monitor that synced to Google fit to get my target heart points tracked…

    • @[email protected]
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      106 months ago

      If it uses health connect to send the data it’s still all good. And if you bought something recently made, it should.

        • @[email protected]
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          76 months ago

          Just to be clear - it’s the API that’s shutting down, not the app. Not that Google has put in effort for the app either, it hasn’t updated since health connect afaik, but health connect is the health and fitness tooling going forward.

          Fitbit has health connect support now, so even if they shift and drop Fit (I hope not, though I also hoped they wouldn’t kill the web interface), and make Fitbit the main Google fitness app, it will still work with Fitbit as the app.

            • @[email protected]
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              16 months ago

              I’ve got a polar h10 myself, I know their app still connects to Fit not health connect, but I’m sure they will update.

              I actually made an app to make use of health connect with my polar h10 for entirely different purposes, it’s really a pretty minor backend change for them to make, so I’m sure Beat will get an update.

                • @[email protected]
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                  16 months ago

                  Got it, checking their list of compatible apps…

                  Worst case you could connect to Strava as a go-between should polar be far behind on health connect (again, doubt they would be).

                  But checking the coospo compatibility, it seems there are a ton of them that all support health connect with coospo, so you wouldn’t be shut out even if health connect wasn’t ready for Polar, you’ll have a ton of options. Including using polar to sync to something that syncs via health connect.

                  Which is kind of what I do btw, aside from the app for the completely irregular use case I mentioned, I sync polar to Strava, Strava to Fit via health connect. I do that because fairly often I am using polar while cycling, so that’s how I want my data to go. But I then found strength training shares nicely too, and running polar beat and my workout app, I can track all my workout routine items (jefit), which syncs via health connect, and then polar goes to Strava goes to health connect, and it all shows as a single session with great HR data.

                  So yeah, you’ll be fine.

      • @[email protected]
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        26 months ago

        Health Connect “beta” is a battery hog. Until they fix those issues, it’s a non-starter for anyone caring about battery life.

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          6 months ago

          Not really the question I was answering, but that’s not actually a health connect problem.

          Withings had an issue, and the way they were connecting to it, which caused a battery drain. To be specific, withings health mate was constantly reading health connect data, which caused a massive power drain.

          I’m not aware of any other battery issues with health connect other than Withings and their Health Mate app (specifically reading, not writing).

          (Edit: why, why would autocorrect change writing to riding? For shame. To me, for not noticing sooner.)

        • @[email protected]
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          26 months ago

          Yes, and in that state it’s still better than any other smart watch I’ve tried. By a lot, too. Which is honestly just sad, but here we are…

          • @[email protected]
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            26 months ago

            I bought a second PTS back in the day, and kept my original as a backup. I just recently had to switch back to it because the daily driver couldn’t hold a charge anymore.

            I tried looking for a replacement smart watch that could do the things I need it to do, and there’s still not one on the market at any price point that can do

            • Always-on color display
            • 7+ days between charging
            • Notifications with full messages on the watch
            • Ability to respond to messages from the watch via both canned responses and voice dictation
            • Smart alarms (activate up to 30m before alarm time, if watch detects you’re no longer in deep sleep)
            • Customizable watch faces
            • Ability to develop custom watch apps
    • @[email protected]
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      36 months ago

      Not sure if you know, but there is an app called gadgetbridge, open source that can interface with many wearable devices including pebble. I use it with an amazfit bip and it works very well. You should give it a try.

      • @[email protected]
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        16 months ago

        yes but until possible i like to have the working weather on my watchface and gadgetbridge is very opinionated against that as it could be used for user tracking, so any kind of internet access is blocked

    • @[email protected]
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      46 months ago

      I don’t understand why people still put time and effort into creating or buying stuff for this foremostly marketing company.

      Everyone here seems to be about privacy and hating ads, yet still funneling time, effort, and money to them 🙃

    • @RamblingPanda
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      86 months ago

      The Fitbit app still doesn’t cover everything Google Fit does. As is tradition. I can’t believe I bought another device.

      • @[email protected]
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        86 months ago

        At this point I’m guessing there’s some internal rule that every once in a while forces them to replace products with inferior, incomplete alternatives written from scratch, and only reach feature parity 3-4 years after the shutdown, when everyone gave up and found an alternative.

        The rules apparently states that in order to maximize confusion it must be a similar but different name, that users don’t have a guided migration and that the app must be separately downloaded. It’s extremely forbidden to just update the existing app

        • @RamblingPanda
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          66 months ago

          Are you a high ranking manager at Google? That seems like insider knowledge 🤔

        • @[email protected]
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          6 months ago

          We have a winner! Employees are rewarded for starting new influential projects, not maintaining or improving existing ones. Thus, there’s intense pressure to propose new products and shut down the old one to beef out the performance reviews.

          Hence, Google can almost never take a product from concept to maturity because it hurts the people working on the project to do so.