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jeffw@lemmy.worldM to News@lemmy.world · 1 year ago

Students walk out during Jerry Seinfeld’s commencement speech at Duke

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Students walk out during Jerry Seinfeld’s commencement speech at Duke

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jeffw@lemmy.worldM to News@lemmy.world · 1 year ago
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Some students could be heard booing as they waved Palestinian flags
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    That’s how it works these days.

    I’m pro-trans, but I’m not pro-trans people in women’s sports. This makes me a anti-trans nazi in the vast majority of leftie/progressivist people’s eyes, who clearly is a closeted Trump supporter. It’s the whole ‘we must be intolerant of intertolerance’ type fo thing… but they’ve twist it to ‘we must be intolerant of any disagreement whatsoever with our unrealistic ideological agenda that has no basis in a factual reality’.

    There is no allowance for variance of reasonable opinion or an objective reality. You are with us, or against us, and therefore the enemy.

    Lefties and young folks who are left leaning tend to be as braindead and lockstep as the Trumpers they claim to hate.

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      with our unrealistic ideological agenda that has no basis in a factual reality

      I think I’ve spotted their issue with you.

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      Removed by mod

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      “I’m pro-trans, but I’m not pro-trans people in women’s sports.”

      If you’re “pro-trans” then that means you believe that, for example, a trans woman is a woman, because she says she is.

      So then you don’t believe women should compete in women’s sports?

      …

      Showing your ass there, huh?

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      My opinion on trans athletes is that I lack the qualifications to have an opinion. What happens to the human body during transition should be pretty well-documented by now, though. I’m sure if there’s any real problem, the doctors who work in gender-affirming care would be pretty vocal about it.

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        They’re biased, though. I don’t assign a moral value to that, I mean sociologically.

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          Fucking lol

          The doctors who research this stuff for a living are biased

          Science is biased

          Reality is biased

          You’re a regressive who hates that reality disagrees with you and would prefer to live in a fantasy world of your own making

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            Uh, calm down mate. Maybe you think you’re replying to somebody else? A doctor making their living from providing transgender healthcare is absolutely a biased party, as is any researcher choosing to focus on this topic. That’s reflexivity, it’s quite important to acknowledge.

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              Buddy that’s like saying you won’t listen to physicists about gravity because they’re biased

              Researching and reporting on scientific realities isn’t bias

              It’s stating the truth

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                You would definitely need to acknowledge a physicist’s bias towards the theory they have chosen to research. That’s absolutely a thing! I’m not saying anything controversial here. I don’t even like sociology very much, reflexivity is boring and over-emphasised but it’s a legitimate issue, and it’s a big issue in transgender medicine. Which people are very keen to point out when the research doesn’t agree with their own position.

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                  Fucking lol

                  Chud

                  Just admit you hate science and want to live in a fantasy world where reality agrees with you 🤷🏻‍♀️

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                    Chuds, Chads and Chodes, it’s a hell of a world.

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              This is some top notch conspiracy theory you got there. A sanity check, religious foundations are funding most TERFy propaganda and “free-speech” absolute-bullshit-ism. https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/2600-leaked-anti-trans-lobbyist-emails Are they more biased than international medical bodies? (American Psychological Organization advocates for trans youth https://www.apa.org/monitor/2022/07/advocating-transgender-nonbinary-youths World Health professional Association advocates for transgender adults and youth https://www.wpath.org/publications/soc) Are you condemning their consensus just because they are interested in the topic? That is moronic. What about the nazis? Are they less biased because they are less invested in transmisogyny? ( https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/news/4188-the-eradication-of-talmudic-abstractions-anti-semitism-transmisogyny-and-the-national-socialist-project ) What about litigation that has come from independent judges, like Forstater’s TERFism was bashed by the first judge as “unworthy of respect in a democratic society”? What about the appeal court that deliberated that she can believe whatever she wants but still can’t misgender trans and non-binary people? (https://criticallegalthinking.com/2021/06/29/not-a-nazi-but-forstater-v-cgd-europe/ ) What about the biologists that independently conclude that biological sex is a spectrum? ( Scientific American visualizing sex as a spectrum https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/sa-visual/visualizing-sex-as-a-spectrum/ 1600 biologists condemns Trump anti-transgender proposal https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46067559 Super low rates of regrets or detransition in trans youth https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/landmark-systematic-review-of-trans Transphobe christian psychiatrist McHugh is wrong, transition mental health outcomes https://genderanalysis.net/2015/09/paul-mchugh-is-wrong-transitioning-is-effective-gender-analysis-10/
              Jon Stewart destroys ignorant GOP lawmaker for criminalizing youth transition https://iv.datura.network/watch?v=NPmjNYt71fk Scientific American Trans girls belong to female Sports https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trans-girls-belong-on-girls-sports-teams/) You are not talking about individual researchers pal, you are talking about the mainstream medical establishment and legal institutions. So crawl back to your cave or wherever you came from and socialize animals that have no gender identity, as it is apparently the only way to preserve your fragile heteronormativity, lmao.

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                I haven’t even stated my position. Clearly some people suffer from gender dysphoria and evidently they are happier living as the other sex. They should be free to do so.

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      TubularTittyFrog seems like as good as any to block.

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      How often did you watch women’s sports before you became aware of the controversial issue of trans women competing in them?

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      “Have you heard of these men pretending to be women to win in female sports? I weep for society etc etc”
      The notion that people transition to gain social benefits, real or perceived, is absurd.
      In fact people who transition are aware that transitioning will bring them to a lesser social status and overall heightened risk.
      Unemployment, homelessness, subpar health services, and violence.
      There is a driving force greater than these social losses that makes them transition anyway.
      Bigots and ignorants might as well stop the hatred-mongering for a second and think, what the fuck that force could be.
      The response: Increased mental health benefits from transitioning to live life in way true to their self.
      Many homophobe clergymen might think that this equals publicly announcing you take it up the butt, but in fact
      it is an expression of identity that cisgender people enjoy without question.
      When put this way, without all the TERF/nazi dogwhistling (“groomers”, “trans-identified males”, “biological males”, “degenerates”, etc),
      it gets harder and harder to keep pretending that the driving force behind the anti-gender movement is not hatred.
      How can you possibly say “I want mental health outcomes only for cisgender people” without being exposed as a total hatemonger and bigot?
      https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/sa-visual/visualizing-sex-as-a-spectrum/
      https://genderanalysis.net/2015/09/paul-mchugh-is-wrong-transitioning-is-effective-gender-analysis-10/
      https://iv.datura.network/watch?v=NPmjNYt71fk
      https://www.apa.org/monitor/2022/07/advocating-transgender-nonbinary-youths
      https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/2600-leaked-anti-trans-lobbyist-emails
      https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trans-girls-belong-on-girls-sports-teams/
      https://www.wpath.org/publications/soc

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      Annoying aren’t they.

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