• @[email protected]
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    what they did :

    “Our product takes in a full blow of air and separates it,” said team member Leen Alfaoury. “Some of that air comes out as it is, and part of it comes out shifted. The combination of these two sections of the air makes the blower less noisy.”

    Adds Chacon: “It ultimately dampens the sound as it leaves, but it keeps all that force, which is the beauty of it.”

    Their design cuts the most shrill and annoying frequencies by about 12 decibels, which all but removes them, making them 94% quieter.

      • @[email protected]
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        The wording is comically awkward and imprecise. But if I had to guess, they figured out a way to fiddle with how the air is routed through the secondary portion such that the emitted noise is phase-shifted to cancel out the frequencies they’re targeting.

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      I wonder if that shares the same physics as silvent’s compressed air guns.

      Silvent’s air nozzles reduce the sound level when blowing with compressed air compared to blowing through open pipes. This is due in part to the reduction in noisy turbulence from using Silvent’s air nozzles, and also because of the nozzles’ special design. Silvent’s air nozzles pass the compressed air through small holes and slots, which raises the sound to frequencies beyond what the human ear can perceive. This allows us to make blowing with compressed air both quiet and efficient.

      Could use an even quieter compressed air gun

      • @[email protected]
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        No, not the same … in your paragraph you describe an increase of the frequency at a level human hearing do not perceive while the other made cancellation of a given frequency using phase shifting and recombination.

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    Dyson gets shit on frequently for being overpriced, but the audible analysis they do one some of their products is crazy complex. Some years ago I watched 30 minute video on the design they did for the hair dryer where they were designing minute angles in the fins of the air impeller, and using a PWM algorithm to measure backpressure in a feed back loop to spin up the fan where it wouldn’t create loud noise while also increasing the volume of air moved. They tuned the mechanisms specifically to shave off tiny peaks in oscilloscope readings.

    One thing I remember is that they said they couldn’t entirely eliminate the specific annoying sound frequencies because it had to ramp, but what they did is ramp to right below the annoying sound frequency level, then hold, then burst above the annoying frequency band very quickly. So the operator of the unit doesn’t hear the annoying sound because the device shoots past it so fast.

    I’ve never heard of any company be that picky and put so much effort into avoiding one negative experience of a product.

    • @[email protected]
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      And then they go and make an idiotic bathroom hand air dryer that is vertical and unnatural to dip hands into and too small of an opening so as to be difficult to not touch it with your clean hands.

      • partial_accumen
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        They released that original Airblade hand drying 18 years ago in 2006 way before the hair dryer.

        11 years ago In 2013 they released the Airblade V which doesn’t do the vertical dip thing.

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          Well, I see the old one 99 times more often than the new one.

          I’m talking about this piece of crap design.

      • @[email protected]
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        Maybe I’ve got small hands, but I’ve never had problems with them. I slightly cup my hands. At least it feels like they get dryer faster that way.

      • @[email protected]
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        Haven’t these been shown to be literally the proverbial shit hitting the fan in terms of spreading bacterial matter everywhere?

        • @[email protected]
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          Yes they literally pull in particles from the bathroom air and blow them directly on your hands.

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            Plus a good chunk of people only wash hands for show: the water runs for 1 sec it barely touches their fingertips, then go on to these dryers and whatever is on their hands flies out everywhere.

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        Maybe it was just me but I never had issues with the u shaped dryers. Although I normally put my hands in by the side, wrists above, kept them flat, and drew out slowly. Dry hands every time.

        Other dryers just end up pushing water to the dry side of your hand.

    • @[email protected]
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      Wait until you find out the analysis they do on car door closing sounds and the clickiness of specific buttons! Industrial Design is COOOL.

      • @[email protected]
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        Buying industrial buttons and modding old controllers isn’t really mainstream but damn it should be.

        A NES controller with switches and joysticks normally used in a combine harvester is really satisfying.

        • @[email protected]
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          Haha no that’s not what I meant. Industrial Design is a profession and automotive industrial designers design all sorts of things, from the shape of the body to the swoopiness of a headlight to the specific clacky feel of various buttons.

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        Meanwhile, Subaru phoned it in with their window switches…

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      I have to run out of the bathroom when my wife uses her Dyson hair dryer because it hurts my ears, and you’re telling me this is by design?!

    • @[email protected]
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      Not necessarily for sound, on industrial fans and drives, we can program in skip frequencies to avoid any resonance issues in the system. I’ve never done it for noise reduction. But I do some tweaks for efficiency and power consumption reduction. There’s some wild industrial design stuff out there, and in the end, it’s because it provides something the customer wants. I won’t go into specifics, but you can design the same components the same for multiple manufacturers and do some slightly different things in its construction to give the vibe the OEM wants, or to fix some inherent characteristics in the manufacturers platform. It’s REALLY cool when you think about it. Sorry to be so vague, but I have to be.

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    It’s almost like it’s a requirement for every landscaping company to use the most noisy, ear destroying, gas-powered leaf blower that they can buy that can be heard from 2 city blocks over.

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      Especially gas-powered as they can then rev them all the time, raising the annoyance to completely new levels.

    • Admiral Patrick
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      Probably. lol. You look out the window to see what’s making all that racket, and you see their logo on their truck / shirts.

    • @[email protected]
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      Gas powered is still vastly superior for things like leafblowers. A good gas one can last 15 years and take a total of $40 in maintenance parts for that entire time, all while blowing harder. High end battery powered ones will last 45 minutes and need a couple hundred dollars worth of replacement batteries every few years. My stihl from 1997 still works like it’s new.

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          30 minutes from a $100 battery vs an hour from a $1.25 in fuel, no recharging, and no batteries that go bad.

      • @[email protected]
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        For 99% of applications, a corded electric blower with an extension cord is far superior than every other option.

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          I actually own one of these but never use it because extension cords are such a pain in the ass especially if you need to stretch it all throughout the yard. I really only bought it because my dryer duct was clogged with 20 years worth of lint and this blew it right out.

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          Sure, if you need less power and want to deal with the extension cord, and where you’re blowing is within 100 feet of an outlet. Doesn’t work well for gutters or large properties or houses with only 1 or 2 outlets outside.

          Huh. I can’t think of 297 other uses for a leaf blower, so I guess your 99% claim might be a bit…overblown.

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              ? Not high enough to keep leaves from plugging them up. I mean, I could technically get it done with a huge extension cord, but that would be a terrible pain in the ass.

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    Cue right wingers protesting the new “woke” leaf blowers.

    • BruceTwarzen
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      I’ll let my gas powered leaf blower running all day now to make your woke blower useless. Get owned, sucker

      • Diplomjodler
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        There certainly are plenty of people who use those things because they enjoy being obnoxious twats.

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            I instantly imagined someone rolling coal with their leaf blower… you know it’s going to happen, even if they’re not diesel.

        • @[email protected]
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          This is very true. I just know my neighbour wouldn’t choose a quieter option if he had the chance

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          Seeing how some very particular relatives are, I wonder if much of the gas leaf blower crowd is less “watch me stick it to the libs” and more “look at me, I’m cleaning my yard, that makes me better than you”

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            And by “cleaning my yard” they really mean “blowing whatever I consider a mess onto whatever is beside my yard, or in the general vicinity for the dust”.

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          I use things that work (even if you find them loud or annoying) because typically over engineered things (like the ‘quiet’ leafblower) are most likely very problematic and will fail. I just do not trust anything new anymore. Companies did this and forced me to stop caring about ‘innovation’ with their constant lies and fraud.

          Edit downvotes clearly from people who are pissed they have to replace their expensive appliances every 5-7 years because ‘innovation’

          • @[email protected]
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            I use things that work

            Blowing leaves around instead of removing it, isn’t ideal then.

            • @[email protected]
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              Leafblowers are used to collect it into a pile which is then raked/shoveled into a bin. The blower is much faster and less effort than the rake at collecting everything into the pile.

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                Everyone I see using them merely uses it to blow the detritus into the street. What you’re saying makes a lot of sense, but people don’t do that

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                  Yeah, well, you can’t fix stupid.

                  Although if there isn’t that much, I suppose letting it dry and break down in the local environment is better than putting it in a landfill. If there’s a lot of it, then at least in cities I’ve lived in, they can and do ticket for putting yard waste or shoveling snow in the street.

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              Do you think a leaf BLOWER sucks leaves up or does anything but blow them wherever you point the machine?

              Your thinking of a leaf vacuum which the article is NOT referring too…

              What was the point of your reply, I really don’t get it…

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            Yeah, I figure that’s the kind of thing they’re going to say.

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            No we obviously need more cheap plastics that will dry rot in your shed and shitty rubber grips that will turn to sticky goo in five years, as well as lowest bidder designed control circuitry with a dozen corners cut.

            I get what you mean, modern power tools feel like Fisher Price toys. They’re disposable.

            What happened to the giant metal vacuum cleaners that doubled as a blunt-force weapons?

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              Maybe the garbage brands. Milwaukee, DeWalt, Makita, etc are very well made, and significantly more powerful than they were 5-10 years ago.

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              Hey, don’t diss Fisher Price toys. The old ones from 40+ years ago were solid. So much so that the iconic telephone on wheels and with eyes is still around.

              Modern day crap though? Oh I’m with you!

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        “I’d never even heard of this 2 weeks ago, but after watching a single 90-second segment on Fox News, it’s all I can talk about and clearly the reason why the country is failing!”

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    For the people not reading the article. This is not about gas leaf blowers.

    The challenge was to take an electric leaf blower and make it even quieter.

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      I don’t mind the electric ones, but I had a neighbour that would fire up a two-stroke backpack monster at 6 AM any morning there was the barest skiff of snow. And he’d try for hours blowing heavier snow that he could have had shovelled in 15 minutes. He was generally just an asshole neighbour all around.

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          I’ve used one for a very light coating or powdery snow, but more than a couple inches of that it’s just easier and faster with a shovel

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              I live in a place where if someone slips on your sidewalk they can sue, so I’m a little more cautious about it.

              Assuming we get snow ever again…

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                  For injuries related to slipping and falling. It’s a real thing, and why a lot of places nearby don’t even have sidewalks to avoid this liability

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        They probably weren’t too concerned with the emissions from the leaf blowers themselves, but the dust and whatnot they whip up into the air.

        • @[email protected]
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          Most gas-powered leaf blowers use two-cycle engines, which produce hundreds of times more hazardous pollutants and fine particulates than cars. Leaf blowers overtook automobiles as the number one source of air pollution in California during 2020.

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          I did want to kneecap the idiot that decided to use a leaf blower to blow the sand off the parking lot of the apartment I used to rent in. Was kind of tempted to send the manager a bill for a new clear coat on my car.

  • @[email protected]
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    The sad thing is the students who actually did the work will probably see no financial gain from this. Students pay to take a class and then a company pays the university for access to the students and the students ideas and work is used by a company with no financial benefit to the students. Everyone makes out except the students.

    • @[email protected]
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      Actually unless they made it working for the university its normal for students to retain their IP rights.

      • @[email protected]
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        I worked at a UC and companies retained all IP across all UCs and my undergrad school from the east coast was the same way. I’ve never heard of a university that let students keep their IP. I would imagine it would be hard to attract outside companies since the companies pay to be a part of the program. Can you point to a university program that allows students to retain their IP for senior design projects? I know if a student is doing a project through the school for a different class like a lab and they invent something or are volunteering the university has no claim to it but senior design is different.

          • @[email protected]
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            So it looks like for senior design classes the students don’t have to be associated with projects where they lose their IP rights. But sponsors have the right to say a project will give all IP to the sponsor. I imagine how this works in practice is all external companies will require they retain IP then the professor creates additional projects where ip can be retained but these are usually canned projects solving some trivial problem that won’t really allow the students to go anywhere interesting with the project. I am not saying that’s the case but I remember at my undergrad and at the UC school that was the case.

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        There are graduate students unions or research assistant unions. Undergraduates (not ones working in a lab) don’t work for the university they are customers. It would be like members of a gym unionizing. I guess it could happen maybe.

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    Too bad these innovations wont make it down to the workers that stores hire from 11pm to 3am to clean the store parking lot across from me.

    • Nora
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      Good thing is you could 3d print some and give them to them. If they use a compatible blower that is. Or if you’re handy with modeling you could probably modify the attachment part.

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        (10 hours of work later)

        “Ok how much money will this save me for the risk of your plastic thing melting all over my blower.”

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    Fuck leaf blowers. I don’t care if they’re quieter. The term here is “polishing a turd.” They don’t really solve any problems. They’re not good at removing debris, but just blowing it to a place where someone else will deal with it.

    Also… removing debris on its own is a dubious pursuit, since “debris” could also be termed “stuff that holds moisture longer and slows the effect of drying soil during drought conditions.”

    • @[email protected]
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      The majority of use my leaf blower gets I blowing grass clippings from the street back into my lawn. It keeps cyclists safe and doesn’t make a mess on public travel ways. I think for that purpose they are a great solution.

      • @[email protected]
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        I want you to think about how many leaf blowers are actually being used, and how many hours even the most inefficient small engine would have to run to compare to a single semi-truck route.

        It’s so incredibly fucked how you people miss the forest for the trees.

        • @[email protected]
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          So I promise I’m not trying to be a dick here. While what you’re saying is essentially reasonable, it’s actually not true.

          The amount of emissions in these small, wildly inefficient engines is considerably worse than even a large pickup truck. The reason is because emissions standards, including the introduction of catalytic converters, etc. don’t apply to lawn equipment. The result is that these don’t actually burn fuel correctly, and spew out lots of harmful pollutants in a way that even large ICE vehicles don’t.

          https://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/features/emissions-test-car-vs-truck-vs-leaf-blower.html#:~:text=Distilling the above results%2C the,than the crew cab pickup.

          https://grist.org/technology/lawn-equipment-pollution-report/

          Like sure, there are larger sources of emissions, but I’m kinda in favor of making changes that would offer a large benefit proportionate to the amount of lifestyle change needed to make the switch. As in, making this switch would be easier than not. These emissions produce no benefit to us, and they cost us a weird amount of money to produce.

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            So I promise I’m not trying to be a dick, but do you actually understand the results from the articles you posted?

            A basic mass balance on the claims implies a very narrow interpretation of “emissions”. It doesn’t even pass the most basic sniff test, come on.

            Not only do those articles completely ignore CO2, what about the energy required to manufacture and transport the fuel in the first place?

            Those studies focus on NOx emissions, a very small subset of overall environmental impact. They basically cherry pick the fuck out of what consitutes as an “emission”, and ignores the massive difference in greenhouse gasses produced.

            There are claims that running a leaf blower for 30 minutes produces as much “emissions” as driving a Raptor like 1 thousand miles.

            Lmao, if you think a quarter gallon of gas from the leaf blower is “worse” than 100 gallons of fuel the truck would burn, you have to be mad.

            Think about it for more than a couple seconds.

            And even funnier about this, the solution for this shit is already here. Aside from commercial landscaping companies, electric is already taking over. Its basically a non-issue as far as realists are concerned.

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          Do you have any solid information to provide or are you just making vague allusions toward some unsubstantiated assumptions so you can justify to yourself being a judgmental ass?

          It’s so incredibly fucked how “you people” are judgmental shits who are busy jerking yourself off every time you can “well ackshally” someone.

        • @[email protected]
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          This is an alert from the Summer’s Eve Emergency Broadcast System. This is not a test. I repeat, this is not a test.

          Reddit has experienced a Level Spez douche release which impacted Lemmy.world approximately 96 hours ago. Lemmy users may observe increased douche activity, including but not limited to: unjustified smugness, irrelevant and erroreous corrections, bad arguments, ego fragility, unwarranted hostility, and assorted douchebaggery. Users are advised to remain calm, refrain from engaging encountered douches in serious conversation, and to liberally use the block feature.

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      I actually see street cleaning teams here in Germany regularly where one person blows the dirt out from bike racks and from under parked cars and the other person sits in the big street sweeper to pick up the dirt. I think this is a very valid use for blowers. The blowers are electric, but I sure would.not mind them a bit more quiet.

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    …is this not just a muffler/silencer for leaf blowers? Good on these kids! This definitely falls under the ‘why didn’t I think of that!’ category for me.

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        Good job not reading any part of the article and confidently announcing your completely incorrect take on things to everyone.

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            And since electric leaf blowers often have a much higher pitch, that pitch attenuates at a much greater rate

            As the article states, it’s this sound that they got rid of. A 94% drop in the high pitched shrill of the electric leaf blower.

            Read. The. Article.

            It’s a 2 minute read ffs.

          • @[email protected]
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            I’m completely uneducated in this field, but there’s a 2 min video attached to that page that demonstrates before and after. Sure sounded better to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @[email protected]
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      You ever tied using a metal rack on pavement? It’s about as pleasant as nails on a chalkboard.

    • BruceTwarzen
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      Jackhammers are so loud, haven’t they heard of a hammer yet? I am very smart btw.

      • FiveMacs
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        Jackhammer and a hammer are not doing the same job. Pickaxe is more akin to a jackhammer.

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          Okay

          Jackhammers are so loud, haven’t they heard of a pickaxe yet? I am very smart btw.

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        What do leaf blowers do that rakes don’t? I don’t remember the last time I saw or heard a leaf blower.