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Yes, this is a 4 hour long review of a hotel that’s already closed.
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Well, we are in no danger of losing money anymore, the thing went bankrupt.
this whole thing reads like Disney was planning it as a tax writeoff from the very beginning …
No they fully thought they could get rich nerds to overspend on a cheap hotel because the CEO who was seeing the project was absolutely about maxing profits from the top percentage of park goers.
That’s not how tax works
I watched the first few minutes just to see what it was about, and then 4 hours had passed.
lol I had never even heard of her before yesterday, clicked on that video because I’m a sucker for deep dive video essays that are probably unnecessary about weird topics. I didn’t see it was a 4hr video until I was like 20 min in and now I haven’t stopped watching her stuff. Love finding a new YouTuber to watch endless hours of their back catalogues.
I’m not a huge Star Wars, Disney, Hotel, Vacation, or fan of this person, and I still watched all 4 hours of this. Really good break down. She’s also very quirky and charismatic.
Her doing an entire section with the porg mask and not mentioning it once is top tier content.
I don’t get how her mic quality was still so clear with that big ole helmet on
Lav* mic in the helmet? I haven’t got to that part yet and don’t know what the mask looks like, but that’s how furries do it!
what makes it so much worse is that Disney has the history, Disney has the knowledge, Disney has the engineering, Disney has the know-how and so little of that was on display here – I cannot see any way that Disney fans, Star Wars fans, or theme park fans wouldn’t be absolutely livid after experiencing that …
That’s exactly the conclusion she comes to late in the video: it’s that they cashed in on their deep supply of goodwill with their fans and betrayed them for higher margins. And then wrote the whole thing off by shutting it down suddenly right at the end of the quarter. We are living in a time of animal-backed-into-a-corner, hostile capitalism. The bubble on this system that was literally designed to pop, seems to be popping. So the capitalists are gathering up everything they can, faster and faster. Capitalism as a concept is inherently flawed. You can’t have infinite growth in a finite system. As has been pointed out innumerable times: that’s how cancer works. Not a sound financial system. But here we are, in what is essentially the “going out of business” mad dash by these leeches to grab as much as they can. Our water supply, our natural resources, the climate, the system of capitalism itself are all on the outs. And people feel that. And we’re getting angrier and angrier. This won’t end well, and it seems to be ending faster and faster. They know that. What they plan on doing with all that money after the collapse is unclear. But they’re winning. And that’s all they can conceive of.
Edit: lol I literally forgot as I went on writing that, that I was meant to be talking about Disney. But that’s pretty much what’s happening. They’re in the “squeeze harder” phase, where they’re ostensibly done growing and innovating, now they’re just going to squeeze everything they can out of the people that give them money. It’s about cost cutting, more extreme exploitation of their workers and customers, and essentially going for broke on what’s already there.
Didn’t the CEO during that phase get replaced?
Iger was CEO when the project was announced, left for a while in the middle, missing the opening, and was back again in time to close it down. He stepped down in February 2020 and was reinstated in November 2022.
Thank you for posting I am definitely going to spend 4 hours on this. ☺
If this is your cup of tea as well you might enjoy her 4 hour review of a theme park that didn’t make it either.
Evermore makes me so sad. All that potential and a dream that just wasn’t. It’s planned theming was much more my speed too.
She has a great followup to the evermore video on her Pateron that I highly recommend just getting a month for.
What’s up with this video? I’m not interested in watching it, but YouTube keeps recommending it to me, and every time I see it the views on it keeps exponentially growing.
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Jenny is very popular but hasn’t uploaded to Youtube in a year, so this a big comeback.
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Star Wars is a popular franchise but has had mixed success recently, and Disney’s perceived mismanagement of it is a popular topic.
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It’s organized as an Internet-friendly numbered list!
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I, and apparently a lot of other people, could listen to Jenny talk about theme parks all day.
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Jenny Nicholson is a really popular video essayist. She only releases like one of these essay videos a year because she spends so long working on them. (She’s got a patreon where she releases a smaller, lower effort video every month.)
The big videos routinely pull in millions of views, so I’m not surprised the algorithm spams it in people’s feeds. She’s got a lot of followers that watch it right away because they’ve been waiting for a year to see it, so it shoots to the top of the recommendations for other people in that niche. Then there’s a snowball effect where YouTube starts recommending it, more people watch it, so it gets recommended more, etc. You see the same thing on Hbomberguy’s yearly video.
As one of her subscribers, I can tell you that this video has been in the works for years, so we’ve been hearing about it for a long time and were hyped. I just finished it today - broke it up into three different viewings. She breaks all her essays down into chapters so it’s easy to watch just a portion of it at a time.
I had never heard of her. I do not watch influencer videos. I do not like influencer videos and suspect I would not like them personally. The 4 hour long runtime clearly indicated I would not be watching it.
I am now a subscriber and big fan of her work!
The cascade of bad decisions by Disney was so enjoyable to hear about and her experience with ‘Disney magic’ was so very relateble. I too have been placed behind inexplicably large columns, felt the arbitrariness of the ‘experiencing the magic’, and spent far too much money for the privilege of standing in sweaty lines in the Florida heat.
I feel bad for the people involved that really wanted to make something great but were crushed under the weight of corporate ineptitude. I personally knew someone who went, refused to say how much they paid, and refused to talk about their experience. Now I know why. Excellent video. She’s like the NeverKnowsBest of theme parks.
I’m curious and confused on the “influencer” part. My understanding was influencers are just people with “popularity” (manufactured users usually) pushing products in a “native ad” sort of way, never attributed it to general youtubers unless there’s something about the creator I’m unaware of.
I used the term loosely to include the average “YouTuber”, a term I hadn’t thought of. I tend not to watch any of them.
Dismissing youtubers for being youtubers reminds me of people who dismiss all animation because “cartoons are for kids” or whatever. When I think of “influencer” I think of an instagram model who pushes products on their followers. “Youtuber” includes many content creators who devote hours into researching, writing, filming, and editing high quality, entertaining, and educational content.
Jenny is on the low end of the spectrum in terms of basically all of those categories (I love her though), but channels like CaptainD, Contrapoints, Philosophy Tube and Folding Ideas create extremely high quality content that (in my opinion) surpasses educational content coming out of any studio.
tl;dr: Dismissing youtube channels as “influencers” is narrow minded and may prevent you from enjoying content you would otherwise find to be of extremely high quality.
Fair point
To be fair she does actually lightly use the word in this video to describe herself, but only in order to describe how Disney as a company might view her.
I keep thinking “surely I won’t watch the entirety of this Vampire Diaries video yet again.” 5 hours later…
Go watch her breakdown of The Church Play Cinematic Universe and you will understand.
It’s a crazy experience of her telling this story. I’ve watched 3 of the 4 hours so far and might do the rest today. You can tell the desperation in her voice on day one, when you can see the boring games and faction quests didn’t work, or her role playing was simply ignored, but some things are even worse, like the used emergency measures in place, in case of fire or the really bad app or extra paying for drinks on a $6000 trip. Nightmarish.
(not even complimentary Disney+ on the in-room TV)
Okay that is actually crazy
She points out that paying for drinks is the norm for all Disney cruises. The food is free and infinite though.
Jenny is one of the best YouTubers around, love everything she makes. Highly recommend, if this is your first time watching her videos, to go back and watch the rest. She makes longform content on a huge variety of stuff and she’s very thorough with her videos.
Jenny is one of those absolute top tier video creators
I haven’t taken the time to sit down and watch this video yet, 4 hours! But I love Jenny’s content and am excited to see it.
Still hoping she will cover the official closing of Evermore
Great video and YouTuber. Thanks for recommending her!
Can I get the 4 min tl;dr:?
Disney opened an incredibly expensive Star Wars “hotel experience”, charging $5k plus for two nights. Jenny Nicholson visited (paying full price) and documented the experience, plus background on how and why the hotel was made, some research into what was going on behind-the-scenes, and the spectrum of fan reactions to the experience. The hotel closed down permanently while she was editing the video, and she also goes into why that happened and some larger trends at Disney surrounding the closure.
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Jenny’s videos are awesome. This has been in my Watch Later since she released it… I need to get around to watching it.
Might be easier to start it if you commit to only watching a few chapters at a time. I just finished it after breaking it up into three different viewings and I had a great time.
She’s just mad about the lack of Reylo content.
Glad to see jenny back on YouTube =) thought shed stay in nebula/patreon forever after the hate she was getting
I don’t think Jenny is on Nebula. She’s got a patreon where she releases smaller videos every month, but to my knowledge she’s never “left” YouTube - she just takes a long time to create and edit these videos so she can only release them pretty infrequently. She’s got a comment pinned on this video saying about as much.
Are you thinking of Lindsay Ellis? She’s still Nebula (and maybe patreon) exclusive.
Oh yeah maybe I got a bit mixed up there, thanks!
