• @[email protected]
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    1071 year ago

    Well yes that’s how time works. Before something happens, the thing hasn’t yet changed…

      • @[email protected]
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        81 year ago

        My money is on sabotage on the plane itself, not a missile or suchlike. Some kind of bomb or device which caused the wing to break off.

        Footage shows the plane falling vertically and seemed to be missing a wing.

        If you absolutely want to crash a plane and kill everyone on board, deleting one of the wings is a pretty surefire way to do it.

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        It was videoed falling from the sky with one wing missing. Experts are quoted as saying that just doesn’t happen on modern jets without some form of serious attack on it. Also people saw missile trails just before it exploded.

  • @SuperSecretThrowaway
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    No shit. It was originally and explicitly stated in the initial reporting that the plane was shot down.

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      witnesses reported seeing missile trails right away, and hearing 2 loud pops… but they absolutely will do everything they can to hide that fact, because they are cowards who hide from everything…

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          initial eyewitness reports from Telegram, accompanied by direct video evidence of a plane falling out of the sky with obvious catastrophic damage

          there is no room for doubt… that airframe had all of its capabilities aggressively shut down by some external physical process… maybe it was Thor, but no… it wasn’t anything but really capable land based missiles…

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              you are all over the place, i don’t even know what you’re trying to say… except that you’re working hard to sow doubt about something obvious…

              not even a Russian airframe can fail that spectacularly on its own

    • @[email protected]
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      I mean you can see the remnants of the missile contrail in that clip that was posted on streamable. 100% shot down.

  • @[email protected]
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    451 year ago

    There’s video footage of missile trace remnants intercepting the plane’s flight path. That thing got shot down.

    What’s less clear is whether prigozhin got offed, or if it was more along the lines of him faking his death.

    • @[email protected]
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      How do we know that’s “the” plane rather than some rando?

      Not arguing anything here. I’m genuinely curious.

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    At the end

    Online flight tracker Flightradar24 last recorded the position of the aircraft at 3:11 p.m. GMT, before the crash. Jamming or interference in the area probably slowed the collection of further location data.

    Other data continued for nine minutes. Flightradar24 said the jet went thorough a series of ascents and descents of a few thousand feet each over 30 seconds before its final, disastrous plunge. Flightradar24 received its final data on the jet at 3:20 p.m.

    • @[email protected]
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      101 year ago

      If you look at the video from the ground you can see it’s missing an entire wing and it’s spinning and fluttering back and forth weirdly as it falls towards the ground.

  • Overzeetop
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    221 year ago

    If your airplane suffers sudden decompression and you get sucked out a window, would it technically be a defenestration?

    • @[email protected]
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      Maybe but might be a stretch. Defenestration refers to the act of throwing someone/something out of a window. We have to consider the pressure “throwing” instead of sucking you out, which might be acceptable since the pressure inside the plane is greater and ends up pushing you out of the window in it’s escape. From the perspective that you’re sucked out of the window, it doesn’t seem like the definition would apply.

  • @[email protected]
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    161 year ago

    I’ll believe it in a couple of years if he doesn’t turn up having faked his death again.

    • superkret
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      I’ll believe it when the netflix adaptation comes out.

  • @[email protected]
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    141 year ago

    “After a failed orbital adjustment resulted in a negative perigee, Wagner leadership has ceased its existence as a result of a collision with the Earth litosphere”, according to Rocosmos Airlines.

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    Another billionaire dies a stupid death. Maybe we should start a Darwin Awards category just for the ultra rich?

    • Chris
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      Interesting take. I would have gone for “A known enemy of Putin suddenly dies in a plane crash over Russian airspace.”

        • @[email protected]
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          81 year ago

          Definitely. Expecting to live after calling off the coup was the stupid move here. He crossed the Rubicon when he seized Rostov. After that, it was win or die and he ruled out winning. It wasn’t hard to figure out what would happen next.

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          Well, well, well. If it isn’t the consequences of my actions!

          • Wagner guy probably