My initial comment in this thread was in response to someone (maskenox?) conflating the two. (Neither of which i am fond of, to be abundantly clear)

Edit: also, yes? When i went and folded all the comments…ig your initial reply was also to the same comment? Even though the voyager app shows them as diff colors…yellow and orange…doesnt make it as obvious and it isnt clear when it indents and when not… 💀