Toronto police say they’re looking for multiple suspects who allegedly shot at an elementary school in North York early Saturday morning.

“We’re not going to ignore the obvious, you know, what occurred here and what the target of the shooting was,” he said. “But at the same time, it will be wrong to just guess at this point.”

  • @[email protected]
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    281 month ago

    I’m struggling to wrap my head around this crime. Two people shoot five bullets at an elementary school before 5am on a Saturday, then leave with their getaway driver. This crime was discovered a few hours later by school staff reporting evidence of a shooting.

    • @[email protected]
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      71 month ago

      Its a fairly standard school shooting. Most school shootings dont have a victim, just like this one.

        • @[email protected]
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          21 month ago

          The school doesnt have to be open or have any students on campus to be consideeed a school shooting.

          • Flying SquidM
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            91 month ago

            I would wager that if you told most people there was a school shooting and if they asked you how many children died and you said, “none, the school was empty at the time,” they’d say you were being a dick by making them upset because they thought someone had killed a bunch of kids.

            • @[email protected]
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              21 month ago

              Well yes, but thats how they count school shootings, or at least in the US. You have to realize that most people counting school shootings are incentivized to inflate the numbers as much as possible. The number of students actually shot in school shootings is a magnitude lower than the number of school shootings.

              Imo, number of students shot in school shootings is a much better metric than just school shootings by itself.

              • Flying SquidM
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                21 month ago

                Can you show me where it says that is how a school shooting is counted in the U.S.?

                • @Anyolduser
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                  21 month ago

                  There’s no uniform definition, but groups with an agenda will count any discharge of a firearm on property owned by a school as a school shooting regardless of circumstances.

                  One notorious case was a person who committed suicide in the parking lot of a closed down school. It happened in the middle of the night and classes hadn’t been held in that building for years. Advocacy groups still counted it.

                  NPR did a whole investigation into over reporting in 2018. Here’s a link:

                  https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/08/27/640323347/the-school-shootings-that-werent

              • @[email protected]
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                11 month ago

                Can you tell me how many school shootings there have been in the US while schools were closed?

                Im guessing the number is very low if not 0.

                Not casualties is not the same as shooting at an empty building

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                  21 month ago

                  Its not zero, I can tell you that much. And the definition used by federal government includes closed schools, also buses and any other school property regardless of status. Someone brandishes a gun at the school bus depot, thats a school shooting.

                  “a gun is brandished, is fired, or a bullet hits school property for any reason, regardless of the number of victims (including zero), time, day of the week, or reason.”

                  https://www.chds.us/sssc/methods/

      • @[email protected]
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        111 month ago

        What was the motivation? It’s easy to say “antisemitism” but like if that was the case - why here instead of a synagogue? And why did they put in minimum effort, accomplish nothing, and quit? It doesn’t make sense.

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          It was at night, pretty common method of intimidation. It also could’ve been an unrelated shooting on the street though. Dunno if more info was found.

        • @[email protected]
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          51 month ago

          You never half-assed something?

          Personally if I had a choice I would pick lazy terrorists over hardworking ones.

        • acargitz
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          41 month ago

          You assume the perpetrators were thinking humans. That’s a wild assumption.

          • @[email protected]
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            21 month ago

            It’s important to know that they are - you gotta know how people get here to know how to prevent it

  • acargitz
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    31 month ago

    This happened in Montreal too. Utterly despicable and outrageous in every way.