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I use Linux because of compiz fusion cube desktop. We are not the same.
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and NeXT for the cubic computer itself
Tux Racer go brrrr
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Tux racer go b…r…r…r
I only had access to ex-corporate office hand-me-down motherboards as a kid. This was about 1 potato per 3 seconds of rendering performance (I’m 34)
It did? Which one?
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Xtrek would be what pops to kind for me, possibly?
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I think my mother played that star trek game on a time shared minicomputer.
Linux gotta mainstream wen?
Time to switch to bsdIt’s almost time to roll out your own OS, posix is becoming too mainstream
There’s always TempleOS
Praise!
Drew DeVault just did a Unix clone as a break from “real work”
People like this, by simply existing, make me feel like a real dumb piece of shit.
My breaks from real work are video games, TV, and this sort of shit posting we’ve got going on in this thread right here.
While he’s no doubt very high intelligence, I think there’s a combination of personality, personal interests, and drive that these outstanding people have. For some people, the work is what they want to be doing AND what makes them happy/fulfilled.
Like you, I am not like that. A productive day at work can feel great, but I’m never sitting at home thinking I’d rather be working on some idea for an app or game.
Society has taught me that what I SHOULD want to do is that “productive” stuff. Work long hours, strike it rich on my own or climb the ladder at work, etc. But the wiring in my brain does not get fulfillment and happiness from that stuff. But spending that time on family, pets, and hobbies has greatly increased my quality of life over the past few years.
Yeah, it’s the same for me. Work is so I have the money I need to live, but free time is so much more valuable to me.
I like to consider what I would or wouldn’t regret when I’m older. I’ve heard plenty of successful people lament not being a better parent while focused on their career. I’m not sure I’ve ever heard somebody regret spending time with their family instead of their work.
That’s why I plan to move my servers into an L4 clone.
I applaud this future thinking. you need bare metal or whatever you consider L4 to truly rice a system. Gone are the days where superior performance was a couple of finely tuned cpu flags away.
Well, ok. I don’t really plan to do that. It was a joke.
I do wish it was something viable, though.
Heard me out
FreeDOS
I’ve used FreeBSD for about a month in 2005, and still can’t stop talking about it.
I dual booted it as a desktop for about 6 months around the same time, but honestly all I did is use it as a desktop and browser. I could hardly figure out how to do anything else. I’ve forgotten everything about the experience, and anything I happen to accidentally remember I try to also forget.
It’s close to 1 in 20 PCs nowadays. It’s growing very quickly, and has been adopted in non-irrelevant amounts for a few years already.
Solaris tho
shutters
shudders
No shutters:
No, shudders:
I am already learning to use FreeBSD. I definitely recommend reading the official handbook, it is even a pretty great introduction to Unix overall.
Plan9 from bell labs?
*when
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Any time now surely
If you’re also a woman, this may work!
That’s not a bad strategy. Just gotta add some leftist politics to the mix.
Well, theres been a push to get more women into Tech so that works in your favour.
Your job is now to lure them away from the Microsoft bros
“Come back to my house! There’s no windows! No wait- not like that- don’t go!”
Let’s not repeat the mistakes of (some!) old Unix-Heads and just welcome all newbies, please <3
the correct greeting is “I use Nix BTW”, Arch is so yesterday
I use ubuntu by the way 🤓
I use Debian BTW 👴
Oh, snap!
I recently tried switching from Arch to NixOS and the experience I had can best be described as apalling. I have not had a new user experience this bad since my first dip into Ubuntu dependency hell back in 2016. I’d like to preface this by saying I’ve been a Linux user in one form or another for almost half my life at this point, and in that time this may well be the most I’ve struggled to get things to work.
Apparently they have this thing called home-manager which looks pretty cool. I’d like to give that a shot. Apparently I have to enable a new Nix channel before I can install it. I’m guessing that’s the equivalent of a PPA? Well, alright.
nix-channel --add ...,nix-channel --update(oh, so it waits until now to tell me I typo’d the URL. Alright), and now to run the installation command and… couldn’t find home-manager? Huh?? I just installed it. I google the error message and apparently you have to reboot after adding a new nix-channel and doingnix-channel --updatebefore it will actually take effect, and the home-manager guide didn’t tell me that. Ah well, at least it works now.I didn’t want to wait for KDE and its 6 morbillion dependencies to download, so I opted for Weston. It wasn’t a thing in configuration.nix (
programs.weston.enable=true;threw an error and there was no page for it on the NixOS wiki), but it was available in nix-env (side note: why doesnix-env -itake upwards of 30 seconds just to locate a package?), so I installed it, tried to run it, and promptly got an inscrutable “Permission denied” error with one Google result that had gone unresolved. Oh well, that’s alright, I guess that’s not supported just yet – I’ll install Sway instead. Great, now I have a GUI and all I need is a browser.nix-env -i firefoxgave me thefirefox-betabinary which displayed the crash reporter before even opening a browser window. Okay, note to self: always use configuration.nix. Oneprograms.firefox.enable=true;and onenixos-rebuild switchlater, I’m off to the races. Browser is up and running. Success! Now I’d like to install a Rust development environment so I can get back to work. According to NixOS wiki, I can copy paste this incantation into a shell.nix file and have rustup in there. Cool. After resolving a few minor hangups regarding compiler version, manually telling rustc where the linker is, and telling nix-shell that I also need cmake (which was thankfully pretty easy), I’m met with a “missing pkg-config file for openssl” error that I have absolutely no idea how to begin to resolve.I’m trying to stick with it, I really am – I love the idea that I can just copy my entire configuration to a brand new install by copying one file and the contents of my home directory and have it be effectively the same machine – but I’m really struggling here. Surely people wouldn’t rave about NixOS as much as they do if it was really this bad? What am I doing wrong?
Also unrelated but am I correct in assuming that I cannot install KDE without also installing the X server?
I made a similar switch half a year ago and thankfully for me it was relatively painless. Some stuff got significantly harder to set up (e.g. getting a nice rust development environment, getting ROCm to work with some torch-based project), but once all that is done I have complete or near-complete setup instructions on how to do it again, so I am hoping the trade-off here will be worth it in the future (or I will drop nixos and move to something else if I get bored, time will tell).
For the beginners, I recommend to go with the flakes setup right from the start, here is a nice guide that you can use as a reference: https://nixos-and-flakes.thiscute.world. I followed it through for the initial setup and I don’t remember having to think about channels, at least initially: I picked the most recent stable one right at the start and only updated it to another - the unstable one - later on when I wanted to get some fresh kernel version. The upgrade was pretty painless, as the channel is just the root input of the flake: change that one line,
nixos-rebuild switchand it’s done. With flakes I occasionally runnix flake update(+ rebuild) to get newer versions of packages (as the flake will be locked to the state of the channel at the time you install/update). If anything (well, most) of the things go wrong, just go back to the previous build while you figure out what’s causing issues (much better than the Arch experience of something going wrong after the update - better read Arch news regularly 🙃).Besides updating my configuration to add/remove packages and doing the same for development environments (btw, for getting compile time dependencies into nix-shell, you need to add them to buildInputs of the shell: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/FAQ/I_installed_a_library_but_my_compiler_is_not_finding_it._Why%3F ), I only ever use
nix profile install nixpkgs#<package>if I want to just run some app without adding it permanently. After these 6 months of use, I have found out I am getting much less software/package cruft building up in my system. If I stop using something (especially a big think like a DE), I can just remove it from the configuration, rebuild and that’s it. With Arch, I probably even forgot about half of the things I installed there over the years.
Nix just had internal politics. Reject Nix; embrace Guix!
“I use FOSS btw”
Also, Arch is sort of bullshit. For everyone that insists the Arch wiki is the pinnacle of truth, I followed it to the letter and couldn’t get some stuff working. To be fair this was maybe 8 or 9 years ago, but the wiki wasn’t as magical as people acted like. So like… Why bother? Oh boy, I’m gonna save a bit of space because I’m not installing a desktop environment? Who cares! It’s such over kill for the average user and you’re not really getting much in return. It’s sort of like buying a project car to work on. It should be viewed more as a hobby for folks super interested in creating the perfect setup for themselves.
It’s not just the Arch wiki. It’s the overall DIY approach, the AUR and a lot of other factors. Some also just like the fact that it’s built by a community and not a company.
The great thing about Linux is that there are options for everyone.
Want an OS with a full desktop installed? We got you.
Want an OS with almost nothing installed where you can make every single decision? We got you.
Want to build the OS entirely from scratch? We got you.
There’s an option for everyone and that’s cool. Don’t be mad about having a choice.
nixos is the greatest .config file
You use Linux because of your superiority complex and need to be seen as cool.
I use Linux because I’m broke.
We are not the same.
I use Linux because I don’t trust windows, I don’t like the direction Microsoft is headed, and I’m bored.
We’re not the same either, but that’s ok. We can still all have each other’s backs.
yay gatekeeping!
Yeah this post is pretty cringe lol
I honestly hate this meme template. It’s barely ever used for anything smart and mostly just being a gatekeeper.
The guy saying he uses Linux because of some ‘90s game is way better.
I mean, can’t it be both?
Not if you want to apply the “we are not the same meme” format. That… Like a sith… Only deals in absolutes.
So, this meme is a sith?
Move the h in “sith” two characters to the left. Then I’ll agree with your statement
Nah, he played like an imperial dude in The Mandalorian, but not a sith.
Least contrarian Linux user.
I use Linux because of the 3D desktop cube. Who doesn’t love the cube!
And wobbly windows
Beryl?
Wtf is her problem with the cube?
ahhh i remember being a bored teenager spending his life customizing his desktop too…
Nowadays I just want a working system where I can get things done, haven’t touched my desktop environment settings in a while and certainly don’t use things like cubes or wobbly windows anymore.
Sisko and Picard.
For me it is very weird, no one introduced me formally to Linux(no one I knew run or heard of it), it felt like it was a legend. I never really got to know how good it was and always felt MacOS and Windows were lacking, never really in control of your system, never happy with my system, always patching stuff. The years went by and my curiosity only became larger as Mac and Windows experience was getting worse and worse. I already had experience Jailbreaking iPhones and flashing custom ROMs on Android since my school days, so last year I bought a PC and installed Ubuntu. Next thing I know my computer is breathing again, the grass was definitely greener here. So I switched for both reasons.
Mmmmm fresh pasta.
For me it is very weird, no one introduced me formally to Lemmy(no one I knew run or heard of it), it felt like it was a legend. I never really got to know how good it was and always felt Reddit and Twitter were lacking, never really in control of your memes, never happy with my content, always downvoting stuff. The years went by and my curiosity only became larger as Reddit and Twitter experience was getting worse and worse. I already had experience shit posting and trolling on 4chan since my school days, so last year I signed up to Lemmy and posted my first meme. Next thing I know my feed is breathing again, the grass was definitely greener here. So I switched for both reasons.
jesus
I use Linux because Hackintosh is a dying platform and it only takes about 800 hours to get it almost as good.
This brought me memories. In college I had a Dell Mini with Intel atom 1st get. It was useless to run engineering apps like matlab or solidworks
I installed OSx86 and those apps ran a lot better using parallels than running natively on Windows, I was even able to play some games on it
I liked that one band before they became popular. That’s what you sound like.
I listen to band’s music because I like their music.
You listen to band because you hate music.
We are not the same?
Both? Both is good
Stop stealing my brainwaves!!!
But you are correct, nonetheless.
My one thing I feel like I can brag about in tech circles is that I switched to Linux in 1995 (Linux kernel version 1.2.1), and I haven’t looked back since. This was even before Windows 95 was released.
Yeah, but, like, I use Arch btw
ah, but did you use Stage 1 Gentoo? huh? huh?
That was before Gentoo
You’re absolutely right. Microsoft has systematically killed every reason I have for having their software on my pc. I’m not switching to linux because linux got better (although it certainly has). I’m ditching windows because windows now sucks more than I can bare.
