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Forgot to add the extra 300 a month in shitty HOA fees that all places seem to have in HCOL areas.
Urgh, HOAs are the devil. Condo fees are also bad, some people pay about the same in fees as on their mortgage.
There are not many here in Seattle aside from condo or townhouse HOAs. The condo dues are generally around that but they cover the maintenance of the whole building. In the suburbs the HOA dues are generally $50-100. That gets you a sign and maybe a small park. I don’t need a sign and I already pay money for parks in the form of taxes. Although those developments probably do not have homeless campers down the street. The ones down the street from me are fairly clean and don’t cause issues.