I have been using PIA for years and I was thinking of switching to Protons VPN (as well as storage, email and password manager) and I was wondering what everyone else thought of it. Is it as stable and useful as PIA?
PIA has proven in court that it doesn’t keep logs, but what about Proton?
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Proton VPN is probably one of the best VPNs out there. Has open source clients, is based in Switzerland so under their strong jurisdiction for privacy and data protection, doesn’t keep logs or sell data, has good speeds, includes useful features, etc. I’d definitely recommend it, as well as Proton’s other products.
Fuck, wish I didn’t have a year of surfshark remaining
According to r/VPNTorrents, Proton and AirVPN are the only recommended VPNs since they are the only well-established privacy-respecting ones left. New ones are popping up with promise, like Azire, but time will tell. As for Proton, I decided against it because of limited port forwarding and lack of IPv6 compatibility and settled on AirVPN. Also, I personally try to avoid keeping all my eggs in a single corporation’s basket, so I cannot advise buying into the full Proton suite if you’re remotely tech savvy and/or privacy-concerned. But they are genuinely great products if you have no desire to do any tinkering or shopping around. I just can’t see the appeal in my VPN activities being directly tied to my email. Oh and I almost forgot, I switched from PIA due to their lack of IPv6 support and acquistion by Kape, a known adware company.
PS: AirVPN, in my opinion, is the last great VPN. Open-source, run by activists, anonymous accounts, crypto purchasing, IPv6 compatibility, full port forwarding, great support, Tor integration, the list goes on.
Mullvad no longer useful due to no port forwarding?
Well, to put it one way, Mullvad is almost definitely the best VPN that doesn’t offer port forwarding. Which, in reality, may only be absolutely crucial for torrenting.
How noob/non tech savy friendly would you say it is?
My Proton email is just a fallback and privacy based activities. Nothing nefarious, just stuff I’d prefer to keep off Google’s servers.
Ah makes sense then. Proton is my main until I get around to self-hosted email.
What happened to CyberGhost?
Its 10/10
If you are on Linux and require port forwarding, there is a bit of work that needs to be done.
Otherwise, it’s very solid.
Their free VPN is good enough that I have not had to purchase their paid version, but I probably will anyway.
Proton is a great company with a pretty good record, but I wouldn’t recommend them for passwords when Bitwarden exists. Proton only open-sources their clients, and for service based offerings like mail or VPN I don’t care about the servers being open-source, but for password management I want to be able to host my own (making sure that self-hosted mail gets properly received by Gmail is pain and self-hosting a huge VPN network is basically impossible).
I use their stuff. I can’t complain about their vpn. I generally have it on in the background by default and I’ve rarely had issues with speed. And if a server is slow there are tons of others to select from.
They claim they don’t keep logs and so far I haven’t had any reason to doubt that. This is their whole reason for being since the Snowden leaks.
I also use their email, but it’s not my primary email. That’s mostly because of my setup. I really hate web based email so I always use an email client and they offer ProtonMail Bridge that makes it possible to use it inside an email client, but until recently I was running Linux. I think I got fed up with fucking around with Thunderbird and the bridge tool, but I gave up. Now I have a Mac and their tool works flawlessly, so I’m using the ProtonMail a little more.
I will only be using email for…private matters. Not my new personal address. But thank you for the response and recommendation.
Only if your other contacts have proton as well then you are ok. If it is google and the likes then it isn’t that private…
It’s a bit pricey, but it has stable connections, servers everywhere and a very good jurisdiction. Also supports double hops, which is very nice.
very
I’m on ProtonVPN for a couple of years now. In the beginning the Linux client was a bit of a pain, but they also let you download OpenVPN and WireGuard config files. By now the VPN client works fine, also has a permanent kill switch, the only think lacking behind on the Linux client are profiles.
Other than that their services work really good, I have no performance issues and nothing really to complain about.
After the entire IP logging incident, i stopped using their stuff. Their services really aren’t the best, and they don’t really seem to care about Tor users too (their onion service just redirects them back to the clearnet one).
Their “email encryption” promise only works if you’re sending an email to another protonmail user.
As far as the VPN goes, i never really used it, but i wouldn’t trust a company that promises no logs, then does the opposite, and then removes the policy from their page
Their “email encryption” promise only works if you’re sending an email to another protonmail user.
Just wanted to mention that this is more of a limitation of email, than ProtonMail. Copies of the messages will exist on the other side. So if the recipient’s server doesn’t encrypt, then the conversation can’t be fully encrypted.
Yeah, email is inherently insecure.
Hence why you should use PGP yourself, and never give your private keys to the email provider
