• volodya_ilich@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      they’re monsters

      Great, now you’re not talking even of Russia as a country, but of Russians as a people, and calling them universally monsters, whether they’re peasants under the Russian Empire, workers in the Soviet Union, or citizens under the Russian Federation. Nice way to show everyone here that yes, your whole point here is Russophobia, not legitimate and credible analysis of history and societies.

      Again, as I said, impossible to discuss with most Polish people, you’re not arguing from reason but from nationalism and racism. Good night, and good luck

        • volodya_ilich@lemm.ee
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          1 year ago

          So in 1945… what happened to Poland… since they legally succeeded from the USSR they were a free country again right?

          In 1945, the soviets installed a friendly communist government in Poland, while granting it again the right to be an independent country, kind of proving that the objective from the start wasn’t “to conquer Poland because Russians are so evil”, but to not have enemies in their borders. There were purges of anticommunists as everywhere else in the soviet block.

          Now I’ll ask you: in 1989 and forwards, with the Solidarity movement. Do you believe that’s a grassroots movement which spawned purely in Poland, with the only goal of freedom and democracy, and wasn’t in any way influenced by other countries? Hint: USA? The 1989 “revolution” was completely autonomous and legitimate and now Poland is finally a completely free state?

          So actually it looks like Russia propaganda in the 1940s thanks to De Gaulle’s personal opinions on the matter

          Funny how the purported opinion of polish citizens about Russia isn’t affected by propaganda, but the french polls are somehow.

          You seem to be under some belief that the USSR never committed atrocities

          I never claimed anything like that. I’m aware of the Katyn massacre and the purges of anticommunists in the USSR on a widespread level, just not particularly against Poland.

          genocide levels of damage to Poland

          Sorry, only Polish people actually believe that. There’s no international body as far as I know which makes any claim of genocide towards Polish by the USSR.

      • el_bhm@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        I will let you know the same will be for any other country that was under soviet occupation.

        It is one of life’s great mysteries. Never to be solved. We just cannot connect the dots!