'More Unhinged by the Minute': Senior Israeli Lawmaker Suggests Nuclear Attack on Iran | Common Dreams
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"It is not possible anymore to stop the Iranian nuclear program with conventional means," the hardline Knesset member and former Israeli defense minister said.
  • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
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    1 year ago

    What, exactly, are you saying happened in this comment thread you’re linking to? And then why it was wrong? I just want to have it straight before I address it.

      • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
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        1 year ago

        They didn’t say Biden had any part in the genocide, they said:

        There is a very real chance that Biden’s unquestioning support of Israel will lead to WW3.

        Bibi knows whatever happens, Biden will always have his back. He can’t get that loyalty from any other US president

        Those are two dubious statements followed by a third that is explicitly and laughably objectively false. Every US president has had Israel’s back. The idea that Biden is somehow exceptional is the part that is Republican propaganda, not the idea that he has any part. He clearly has quite a large part in it, I think. I would stop short of saying he’s “responsible” for it at this point, although I guess that one is debatable by people of good faith.

        But saying he’s a departure from the norm for US presidents because of his nearly-total support for Israel is explicitly false, and is being used quite effectively as propaganda against him in this election, yes. When was there a US president who didn’t support Israel?

        Also, I want to get clear on this, too: Are you saying people should be unable to say that this is Republican propaganda? Like not allowed to say that, something is wrong with the forum if they’re allowed to make that claim about you? Or no?

        • mightyfoolish@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          1 year ago

          There is a very real chance that Biden’s unquestioning support of Israel will lead to WW3.

          In all five of these administrations – Eisenhower, Nixon, Carter, Bush 41 and Obama – the president actually believed that his predecessor had been too close to the Israelis, that it had cost us and that he needed to create distance. - Washington Institute

          Instead, they said Biden has noted, Obama publicly admonished Israel’s actions and voiced concern for Palestinian civilian deaths early into the 2014 conflict. As a result, Biden has argued, Obama squandered any ability to influence the Israeli government as it invaded Gaza, said the people familiar with his comments. - NBC News

          Support and unquestionable support are the keywords here. Israel has been supported by the US for 50 years but the degree has varied. Even Obama had disagreements with his vice-president over the issue (Biden’s Israel strategy is to never disagree with them).

          Also, I want to get clear on this, too: Are you saying people should be unable to say that this is Republican propaganda? Like not allowed to say that, something is wrong with the forum if they’re allowed to make that claim about you? Or no?

          People can say what they like as long as it does not break site rules.