Did he do it for the memes?

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    It’s not just “biden being biden” by a longshot. He is 81 and significantly worse.

    We are rightly worried he’s going to lose against trump.

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        His voting base doesn’t care if they’re led by an unfit leader.

        Be better than them.

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          The choices are

          • Be “better” and help Trump win, or
          • Help Trump lose

          Seems like an easy choice to me.

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            Even as a vegetable, Biden’s administration wouldn’t let the country fall into a kleptocracy. And that’s enough for me.

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              Letting the country fall into a kleptocracy is exactly what Biden and his democratic party handlers are doing with their insistence of “nothing would fundamentally change” by pushing through the weakest presidential candidates and placing the status quo over actual progress.

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              The voters can’t replace Biden, and as I’ve mentioned in another comment, they’re not making these decisions blindly. They’ve likely come to the conclusion that replacing Biden would cost more votes than it’d gain. Right or wrong, they’re not going in blindly.

              All the voters can do is vote. And realistically, on election day, a vote not made for Biden is a vote in Trump’s favour.

              If you’re okay with that, that’s your decision. But I believe Trump has said that if it were up to him, the genocide would’ve been “completed” by now.

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                The voters couldn’t even practically choose anyone other than Biden in that sham of a primary. People were warning about Biden since long before the primary and yet democratic party leadership decided they knew better than the voters and forced him through. Now you’re blaming their fuck up on voters.

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                  You don’t know for a fact that it is a fuck up.

                  You (should) know for a fact that, if you consider Trump getting elected to be a fuck up, that not voting for Biden would be a fuck up because it’d be helping Trump win.

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                    We can see the fuck up in motion right now as the democratic party runs around with their hair on fire. What should be a slam dunk election is in doubt (and wasn’t even clear before the debate) because the candidate is that weak, just like how Trump should have been easy to win against in 2016 but they forced through Hillary and we’ve been living through this nightmare ever since.

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                All the voters can do is vote.

                And protest, and contact representatives, and organize, and join their local party… Again with the national party lines meant to make people disengage.

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              replacing Biden now may help Trump win, but it may also help Trump lose, whereas in contrast NOT replacing Biden now may help Trump lose, or it could help Trump win.

              Either that quote doesn’t really mean anything, or maybe I’m missing the nuance to it.

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            No. This is an either/or fallacy the DNC has been pushing for over a year to quell any dissent. Well the chickens have come home to roost. We can apply pressure to change the candidate. That’s an option. We do not have to have either Trump or Biden and nothing else.

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              It’s interesting to see all the pro-Trump accounts suddenly change their talking points to “Biden should step down.” It makes you wonder…

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                Oh joy. That’s a new one. Nobody has ever called me a pro Trump person for attempting to remind people that there are other options. Never before.

                Just kidding. This is exactly how we got here. People like you bullying anyone that dares talk about Biden having electability issues. It was too effective and now we’re in this dumb position that could have been avoided so easily.

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          The top comment in this thread is “yeah Biden might be a vegetable, but vote blue no matter who.”

          How exactly are lefties any better? Your leader is losing his mind, clearly not fit to lead the country, but you’ll back him anyway.

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            Biden and the Dems are right wing?

            Leftists don’t support them. “Centrists” do.

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        People aren’t going to vote for Trump over Biden, they are just going to sit out. America doesn’t have mandatory voting.

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          If those people are fine with Trump being president, then that’s on them. Sitting out instead of voting against Trump is helping Trump win.

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            You can blame them if you want, but the original push is from Biden and the DNC’s failures and support for genocide.

            The point is, Biden is tanking, so swapping him is better. Defending Biden hurts DNC chances.

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              support for genocide

              The same genocide that Trump supports, likely more than Biden?

              If the genocide in Palestine was someone’s single issue, they’d be pretty disappointed if Trump were making decisions about the Palestine…

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              “Excuse excuse excuse, I feel bad voting for Biden so I won’t”

              Very inspiring. What other emotions do you have trouble dealing with?

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        It’s impossible to dintinguish when Trump makes mistakes from when he’s genuinely lieing or confidently incorrect.