• El Barto@lemmy.world
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    I must admit that I got scared when Biden noped out of the re-election.

    I’m just glad that Kamala seems to be bringing the unification the dems need.

    Get her the nomination already! And people, people, people, don’t do a Hillary and become complacent. Get out and VOTE!

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      Not a single person voting Democrat does so because they thought Biden was a great candidate.

      It appears nobody has learned anything from Hillary’s loss in 2016.

      Establishment ghouls are not popular Democrats. Conservatives will vote Republican anways, appeasing to the right is worthless.

      Only progressives get independents to vote blue.

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        Not a single person voting Democrat does so because they thought Biden was a great candidate.

        Tell me you’re unaware of his achievements as president without telling me…

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          I am aware Joe Biden is complicit in Genocide and performed like a senile geriatric on CNN.

          Tell me you don’t live in America without telling me.

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            I understand it’s hard to see a whole picture when onde side of a single issue occupies 100% of your brain capacity

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              Some people find it a little hard to ignore Genocide. Good to see the average Democrat has no issue with it and willingly admits it.

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        Not a single person voting Democrat does so because they thought Biden was a great candidate.

        This is where you lost me. As if boomer Democrats are not a thing. But let’s keep on reading…

        It appears nobody has learned anything from Hillary’s loss in 2016.

        Lost me again. I don’t know why people keep forgetting about 2020.

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            Were it not for Israel, I’d be telling you about how great Biden has been domestically (except the boarder). His administration has by and large been very progressive with the policies it’s enacted. Biden’s abhorrent sucking up to Israel during an active genocide is the huge dark spot on his presidency.

            It is a bit dumb that “he’s too old” is what got him out.

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              Hm, no. Neither of those arguments got him out.

              “I’ll tax the billionaires” got him out.

              Unless he did some 4D chess with the whole bowing out after the RNC.

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                Nah, he turned deeply unpopular right after the debate with trump. He was hemorrhaging in the polls. His backers abandoned him because they feared trump winning. Several polls about biden dropping out had something like 75% of democrats wanting him to drop.

                Kamala has ran to the left of biden on a number of issues. If this were a “billionares fear taxes” situation she wouldn’t have been the replacement. There are some rumors that establishment dems didn’t want Kamala to be the pick because of her policies.

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            You’re correct in your last sentence. In many communities, everyone thought that everyone was voting for Hillary Clinton in 2016.

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          Biden won marginally because he was marginally better than Hillary and was the Obama guy.

          Bernie would have won by a landslide.

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        I would rather say appeasing to right wing voters with right wing rethoric is worthless.

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        Anybody that feared Biden dropping out needs to re-evaluate the way they look at politics.

        In what way?

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          I don’t know. It’s been pretty clear for a while that the traditional Democrat strategy of winning by courting centrists and staying the course has been less and less effective every election. Tapping into enthusiasm for leftist policies and energizing the base to increase turnout has seemed like the better move for a while. That’s what Obama won big on and then completely failed to deliver.

          Staying the course with the “nothing will fundamentally change” candidate was always a path to losing, and after his disastrous policy on Gaza we were in a nosedive.

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            Leftism isn’t a real thing. It’s just a feeling.

            In a political campaign always want to offer an optimistic future. As we’ve seen with Biden, it doesn’t really matter if he makes the most pro-union policies in history, join picket lines, protect social programs, and only fail to increase minimum wage because his party didn’t have enough votes. “Leftists” don’t care about policies, it’s entirely an emotional thing.

            It’s easy enough to understand. The leftists that voted for Obama became more centrist as they got older. The leftists of today are young people who only know about Obama from wikipedia and what they’re told by politcal grifters on youtube and tiktok. Being young they’re emotional and low information voters.

            Harris offers the same “Hope & Change” feelings that Obama did. Which policies get implemented will be dependent (as always) on which party controls Congress. By the end of her first term hopefully enough of the low information emotional young voters will have more information and be a little more capable of critical thinking to vote for her again.

            Also Gaza has nothing to do with leftism, it’s actually a war between a democracy (Israel) and a fascist regime (Hamas). It just feels leftist LOL.

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            That’s what Obama won big on and then completely failed to deliver.

            Bro, Imma stop you right there. The GOP shut down the government under Obama TWICE for no reason other than being the little shits that they are and don’t hide nowadays. So, don’t drive this “Obama did nothing” nonsense narrative. Also, ACA. Even the Republicans benefit from it right now.

            Now moving on, I still don’t see what is there to re-evaluate for the people who feared that Biden dropped out. Hindsight is 20/20, and it’s very easy to say “ha, you were wrong!” after the fact.

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              Obama didn’t do nothing, he bombed like 9 countries and bailed out the banks after they halved black wealth.

              I can’t say whether the ACA was better than nothing because I still can’t afford healthcare.

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                  Currently in SC and between jobs, but before I got laid off, I stopped putting money into the HSA and using any kind of healthcare after I saw how much doctors visits, dental, and routine blood work drained it.