Child safety group Heat Initiative plans to launch a campaign pressing Apple on child sexual abuse material scanning and user reporting. The company issued a rare, detailed response on Thursday.
  • phillaholic@lemm.eeEnglish
    2·
    2 years ago

    Find me any place you don’t own that you can store your stuff that has no restrictions on what you can store there.

    • regalia@literature.cafeEnglish
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      2 years ago

      Something like Proton Cloud, or a self hosted Nextcloud instance. If it’s encrypted, it’s nobody’s business.

      • phillaholic@lemm.eeEnglish
        4·
        2 years ago

        Not according to their terms of service

        You agree not to use your Account or the Services for any illegal or prohibited activities. Unauthorized activities include, but are not limited to: Disrupting the Company’s networks and Servers in your use of the Services; Accessing/sharing/downloading/uploading illegal content, including but not limited to Child Sexual Abuse Material (CSAM) or content related to CSAM;

        • regalia@literature.cafeEnglish
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          2 years ago

          It’s e2ee, that’s just for them to legally cover their ass. They have zero knowledge of what’s uploaded.

          • phillaholic@lemm.eeEnglish
            3·
            2 years ago

            Proton hasn’t really gotten pushback yet as they are small. If Pedophiles start utilizing Proton for CSAM I guarantee you things will change or they will shut down. Another full e2e provider, can’t recall the name at the moment, just ended up shutting their service down when governments started coming after them. They aren’t the guys from the PirateBay.

            • regalia@literature.cafeEnglish
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              2 years ago

              That’s an attack on e2ee, not on any specific provider. CSAM is just one of the ways they use to criminalize encryption.

              • phillaholic@lemm.eeEnglish
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                2 years ago

                It’s also a real world problem, and positioning yourself as a safe haven for it isn’t going to work. Apple was trying to let you have E2E while simultaneously destroying many Governments main objection to it. Now we are back to square one, and if providers refuse to work with governments, governments will attack E2E encryption.

                • regalia@literature.cafeEnglish
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                  2 years ago

                  I wouldn’t say it’s square one, it currently exists and is usable right now at least. So the laws haven’t won yet. It definitely can be more prevalent though.