The last prayer in at the end, where they’re talking about what they want if they win, is the most chilling:
“Be afraid,” Tenney said. “For rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. And when Donald Trump becomes the 47th president of the United States, there will be retribution against all those who have promoted evil in this country.”
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They never will, they’ll just deny that person is a real Christian and act like that’s a meaningful condemnation like they don’t say that of literally every other denomination of Christian
Misread oop, just realized you’re asking God to tell these people to fuck off lol. There’s an even bigger problem with that unfortunately
Religion being weird again
That’s not really the right word. The psycho carrying a machete around telling everyone he’s going kill them is more of a deranged fuckhead. These people are deranged fuckheads.
It might not be the most precise word, but it is accurate.
When did it stop?
Always has been.
Knowledge of Good and Evil. The cause of the fall of man
This is a great article, but it misses one very important dimension. I was raised mostly in Iowa by a conservative evangelical minister, and attended approximately 20,000 hours of church services, church camps, and national week-long meetings. My earliest memories of church start about 1973. Prayers using these same biblical references started in 1979 when Ronald Reagan began campaigning against Jimmy Carter. My “Christian” minister father stopped speaking to a lot of our relatives because they tried to point out that Jimmy Carter was a MUCH better human being than the former actor.
Forty years of conditioning sessions. These prayers aren’t new, and they aren’t specific to TFG. This was prepared.
I’ll leave you with one small anecdote: When I was in my mid teens, the logic of the evangelical movement started troubling me. During the midweek prayer meeting and Bible study (questions and discussion were encouraged) I questioned some of the premises that were being touted. I was removed (by my father, the pastor), taken to the parsonage, and told to NEVER question his authority on biblical matters in public again. Apparently there was a defiant look in my eye, and I was picked physically up and thrown through the front picture window of the parsonage. I thank my kismet, karma, or raw random chance that this happened because otherwise my family would probably be the same full on Trumpists mess that my siblings families remain to this day.
Also, I am male, I have children and grandchildren, and I don’t own a cat, but I now identify as a “childless cat lady”.
The scripture verse that’s cited most frequently in the prayers comes from 2 Chronicles.
Uhhh . . no. No it does not.
Different denominations prefer different translations. They’re using something fairly close to the King James text:
7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
God is so fucking needy.
His name is Jealous, for He is a jealous God.
No I mean “Two Chronicles” is not what it’s called and we’re not doing this whole “actually some people DO pronounce it noo-kyoo-lar”
“2nd Chronicles” would be acceptable.
Weird, most bible sites I looked up uses “2 Chronicles”. For example: https://www.christianity.com/bible/niv/2-chronicles/
So does Wikipedia. "1 Chronicles is divided into 29 chapters and 2 Chronicles into 36 chapters. "
Written, I would agree with you, though it is most often verbally referred to as “Second Chronicles.”
Just another inconsistency with the Bible I suppose.
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For sure. Just pointing out the difference for those that may not know.
And here’s a more recent scholarly translation which is used for secular studies. Which is really the same.
2 Chronicles 7:14 New Revised Standard Version Updated Edition 14 if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, pray, seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.
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Every time They use the bible as a tool I die a little inside. They are no more religious then hypocrites in Mathew. They have received their reward
They’ve found their golden calf, and they’re willing to say whatever it takes to keep everyone worshipping it. (I guess that would make Biden/Harris Moses in this analogy?)
Hypocrisy is a tool of the GQP
Yeah I’m pretty sure Jesus said something like that in the sermon on the mount.
Many people are saying he was strong on revenge.
Can DEMOCRATS please stop with this VIOLENT and DIVISIVE rhetoric PLEASE? THEIR language might Encourage someone to try and Assassinate a Political Candidate!
There’s likely a more proper definition for this sort of behavior, one that is possibly scientific in nature, but I’m comfortable with this term I’ve come up with: Cult Shit
That’s very Old Testament of them. Jealous war god.
They are God’s servants of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.
pretty bleak choice of words for a pastor. it makes you ask as to why go for fear as propaganda when there’s better verses out there for hope, healing, and unity.
the conversations/ responses in this article reminded me of another kinda related one explaining why pride is the greatest capital sin.
Because fear and anger cause people to take action. Hope, healing, and unity et. al don’t create as much action. Especially not donations to make the scary thing (potentially) go away.
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Evil people saying they’ll be retribution against evil people. Something tells me he is lying out of his ass.
