It sounds way less offensive to those who decry the original terminology’s problematic roots but still keeps its meaning intact.

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      If I had to guess, it’s just the general “white=good black=bad” which itself is likely related to day/night.

      But it’s easy to imagine a bouncer at a club with a list of whites allowed in and blacks that aren’t. I don’t think that’s the etymology, but it’s also important to remember that language is alive and words can take on unintended meaning.

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              Idk if that’s for white folks like me (and you?) to decide, and there is no harm on erring on the side of caution.

              It’s like the deal with micro-aggressions. Alone they’re not much, but a constant buildup of these little things can leave someone feeling raw and very sensitive to it.

              I don’t think the etymology started with race, I think it started with day/night. But I’m not an expert on etymology, and while I’m very curious, it probably doesn’t really matter here.

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                  It’s better to identity specific facets of society that are problematic […] as opposed to “treating the symptom” so to speak.

                  I think it’s difficult to separate the two, they form a feedback loop. It’s like the broken window theory.
                  People see these little ambiguously exclusionary acts, and if they see enough of them then they get the subconscious message that exclusionary acts are ok, and the (possibly accidental) targets of the acts get the subconscious message that they’re not welcome which makes the subject raw and sensitive and primes them to look at acts through that lens.

                  In college I took a class on how humans and computers interact, and one of the things my professor was passionate about was how the terminology of programming languages tended to be exclusionary to women. Not explicitly so, but just using violent language that women were raised to find uncomfortable (eg killing a process), and it was pushing women out of computer science.
                  This was like 15 years ago, and he was already passionate about it at the time, so this isn’t really a new thing, its just getting broader attention.

                  I don’t know if that’s happening here, but it costs nothing to change so even a potential minor improvement is worth it.

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      For most people it’s a lot more simple and subconscious than that. White=positive, black=negative. Most people do not consciously apply this to race, but they don’t have to for the subconscious association to take root.