A previous debate between Donald Trump and President Joe Biden went so poorly for Biden that he ended up dropping out of the race and endorsing Kamala Harris.
    • @[email protected]English
      37•2 months ago

      Yeah, I don’t see Harris ending an answer with “we finally beat Medicare.”

      I think I had an aneurysm that night.

      • @[email protected]English
        13•2 months ago

        Me too, and that was just from my friend group sending despairing texts to each other because half of them were watching it. I couldn’t bring myself to watch it myself because I was afraid of how Biden would do, and my concerns were fully justified.

        So glad the DNC was able to pull out of that tailspin.

    • @[email protected]
      3•2 months ago

      Debates mean nothing in presidential elections. Several losers have won and winners have lost in the past.

  • @[email protected]
    69•2 months ago

    “I think he’s gonna lie…”

    Does a bear shit in the woods Trump shit in his pants?

  • @[email protected]
    68•2 months ago

    I’d say “he’s gonna lie” is the free space on the bingo but there’s a lot of competition…

  • @[email protected]
    53•2 months ago

    She needs to hammer him on his rich tax cuts and the state he left the economy in. There way too many people who believe everything was better under Trump and only care about money and earning.

  • @[email protected]
    15•2 months ago

    I think he’s going to lie

    You think he’s going to lie? Anyone who doesn’t know with 100% certainty at this point that he’s going to lie has either been living under a rock for the better part of a decade now, or they’re effectively braindead. Trump lying every time he opens his mouth is approaching death and taxes levels of certainty.

    • @[email protected]
      30•2 months ago

      I don’t disagree but her saying “I know he’s going to lie” would be really dumb. Saying “I think he’s going to lie” leaves open the possibility that he will overcome his lying nature (which would be a win for Harris anyways) while also reinforcing how predictable is.

      It’s a good statement as-is and anything stronger would have been unproductive.

      • @[email protected]
        10•2 months ago

        I disagree, this smacks of the same limp wristed response that Democrats have been using for decades now. That’s how we ended up in this situation in the first place. It’s beyond time everyone stop pretending the emperor has clothes and actually acknowledge it. Trump lies. He always lies. I don’t think he’s ever given a single speech where he hasn’t lied at least once. There’s a reason his lawyers will move heaven and earth to prevent him from testifying in front of a jury in all his legal cases, and it’s because doing so would be an absolutely guaranteed way to catch a perjury charge.

        So yes, she should have just said “Trump will be repeating lies during the debate, so we’re preparing to counter them. At this point everyone knows all his favorite lies, so we’ve got a pretty good idea of what we need to be prepared for.”

        That would have been an actually good statement that clearly sets expectations and shows an understanding of the situation. Soft peddling anything with Trump and the MAGA crowd just wastes time and makes you look indecisive.

        • Rhaedas
          20•2 months ago

          That’s not as memorable as a short sarcastic jab that says exactly the same thing as what you said. The real point she was making is that they are preparing for Trump to be Trump. Simple as that.

          • @[email protected]
            2•2 months ago

            The problem is a “sarcastic jab” is only one way of interpreting that statement. It also comes across as a mild but politically deniable statement of the sort that politicians have been criticized for making for nearly as long as politicians have existed. This is just the latest in a very long line of responses to Trump that stop short of actually saying what needs to be said. It’s the equivalent of news companies peppering “alleged” and “accused” throughout their reports. Most of the time that’s a good thing, but Trump has long since burned through whatever good will he was due. Stop treating him like a reasonable functional adult. If you give him and his followers (as well as the boot lickers over on fox) any wiggle room at all they’ll take advantage of it.

            • Rhaedas
              14•2 months ago

              You should read everything she said and not just the title. Context is everything, and she said plenty of other things that showed she wasn’t playing nice but being sarcastic.

              • @[email protected]
                2•2 months ago

                I did read all of it.

                tends to fight for himself, not for the American people.

                This was a great statement. More of this.

                I expect that he’s gonna, you know, I think he’s gonna lie.

                This is far too weak, and doesn’t come across as sarcasm when printed. Maybe in person hearing her tone it would, but printed it’s too ambiguous. I’m just absolutely fed up with people soft peddling around Trump. He’s a habitual liar with at best a poor grasp of reality, who has run cons and scams for nearly as long as he’s been alive. It was one thing when he was just a scummy business man, but with his turn to politics and dictatorship we can’t afford half steps anymore.

                • @[email protected]
                  2•2 months ago

                  Ready for the worst down voting of my life but I’m with you, orclev. Harris can and should do better. She needs to call him on his bullshit relentlessly, unapologetically, and with no regard to decorum. You know, like we should have done eight years ago. Don’t play games. Call a spade a spade and save our fucking democracy already.

      • @[email protected]
        6•2 months ago

        No I’m criticizing a weak wishy-washy statement of the kind that has been made repeatedly for decades now and allowed Trump to happen in the first place. We need to stop treating Trump like an adult and start treating him like the petulant child he is. He deserves absolutely no respect. People need to stop being afraid to speak the truth about him.

        There are only two kinds of people in Trump’s orbit, morons, and grifters trying to exploit the morons, with Trump occupying the point in the Venn diagram exactly in between the two.