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“It is amazing to hear you talk about women of color as parroting talking points instead of us looking at basic math,” Rye said. “The one thing AOC has done that you haven’t is win some elections.”
Solid point. Also, the fact that a candidate for the Presidency doesn’t even know how many members there are in the House of Representatives shows just how little attention she pays to the basic mechanics of our government.
As much as I’d love to have a legitimate third party to disappoint me, they’re not going to get anywhere if they can’t win outside of random local elections.
Show me a Green House rep, Senator, or Governor and then we’ll talk about how you’ll inevitably let me down after I vote for you. Until then I’m going to vote for the disappointments who can actually win office.
they’re not going to get anywhere if they can’t win outside of random local elections.
This point seems to be beyond the comprehension of some people (those who aren’t bad faith trolls, anyway). I’ve had so many conversations with people, both online and in person, where they don’t understand that a third party with no offices or political infrastructure cannot win and is just a spoiler party (and in the case of the green party, an obvious joke spoiler party).
Exactly. I get that they can’t win everywhere, and that there’s actually quite a few of them in office all over, but if they can’t put up credible opposition to the Democrats at a multi-state level how the hell are they going to get elected to a national position?
I’m gonna make a deal with the Green Party: If you can get a Senator elected, I’ll vote for you for president.
A speed bump normally doesn’t concern itself with the rules of the road; just has to disrupt the flow of traffic in the intended way.
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Putin’s Jizz Stein wants Nato disbanded, the US to give up their SC veto, and revoke weapons to help Ukraine defend itself while simultaneously forcing ‘peace’ (subjugation) negotiations with russia.
For those that don’t understand how the Electoral College + FPTP voting works, voting for her means helping donald become president due to the spoiler effect.
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they are Russian shills
Hey, the money is really, really good.
I don’t think troll farms get paid well, but I’m open to being personally proven wrong with a better offer.
It’s not that long ago that NATO was near it’s end in fact, https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/12/3/macron-stands-by-nato-brain-death-comment-in-clash-with-trump
Had Russia waited another decade or two, and it’s conceivable that NATO would have been retired.
But no, they had to go and bring it back from it’s deathbed: https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2023/7/11/offensive-defence-how-putin-saved-nato https://warroom.armywarcollege.edu/articles/ukraine-revived-nato/
Talk about unintended consequences.
Piers Morgan asked her about this and she just sounds like an idiot. She apparently came to talk to Putin and got snubbed entirely.
Maybe she was schooled, but I bet she learned nothing.
Oh, she’s not an idiot. She didn’t need to learn anything. She knows what she’s doing. It’s intentional.
I am beginning to wonder if the person who keeps spamming this board with vapid third party posts and then refusing to ever engage in genuine non-adversarial discussion about them is deliberately trying to sour everyone here on third parties.
Like, a few months ago no one cared. Now though, EVERYONE is well armed with facts and opinionated as hell.
It’s probably the Streisand effect though! And it’s great to see.
I couldn’t possibly make myself complicit in the acts of the bothsides duopoly. That’s why I will instead vote how the furthest right party wants people to. Additionally, I am on here all day every day campaigning for others to do the same, and that doesn’t make me complicit in any acts because reasons.
I find Stein a bit grating, but I always finds greens hard to pin down politically. I’d much rather this air time have gone to someone like Claudia de la Cruz with something interesting to say and some principles to back it up
Stein sucks. She’s there because she pays Executive Committee bills. No one votes Green for candidate as that candidate can’t win. They hope 5% vote Green, which would put their platform on every ballot in 2028, which would attract a quality candidate to represent it. There was an influx of new persons during COVID. Now, the masses must be inoculated with propaganda such that it cannot happen again when the DNC compromises everything they’ve promised us to suit corporate donors, once again.
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Of course not. The Democrats rely on the military industrial complex to pay the bills, just as the Republicans do. Neither is so stupid as to shit where they eat. Only Trump is that dumb.
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