Trying to build viable third parties by voting for them in presidential elections is like trying to build a third door in your house by repeatedly walking into the wall where you want the door to be.

AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world · 8 months ago

Trying to build viable third parties by voting for them in presidential elections is like trying to build a third door in your house by repeatedly walking into the wall where you want the door to be.

PaintedSnail@lemmy.world · edit-2 8 months ago

Both the student loans and the ACA were actively gutted by Republicans, so they are a perfect example of why getting Republicans out is beneficial to you. You want student loan forgiveness? Get rid of the Republicans that are blocking it. You want single-payer or socialized medicine? Get rid of the Republicans that are blocking it. Both have been introduced by Democrats, both were voted on along party lines and failed due to Republicans.

You are missing my point: you are only hurting yourself and your goals with that strategy. Voting third party only helps Republicans and isn’t seen as any kind of protest by anyone who matters. No one says you have to LIKE voting for either of the parties, but only one party is closer to your goals, is actively trying to achieve your goals, and has a chance of actually getting elected so your goals can be achieved.

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org · 8 months ago

Both the student loans and the ACA were actively gutted by Republicans

So regime won… again. Are you making my point for me here lol

You want student loan forgiveness?

I did not say this.

You want single-payer or socialized medicine?

We had Dem President and both houses… we got ACA… “just vote for my guy this one more time, i spear we will get healthcare” Like how many times do plebs have to this trick?

You are missing my point: you are only hurting yourself and your goals with that strategy.

That is your opinion. I got mine. People can make up their minds for themselves, which is the entire point of this discussion.

Voting third party only helps Republicans and isn’t seen as any kind of protest by anyone who matters.

I said I don’t care about either party. I care do care to deny them my vote.

but only one party is closer to your goals

Historical records and current trends say the opposite.

Bottom line: the REGIME IS NOT THE ANSWER, the sooner people figure this out, the quicker we can move forward.

Entire point of voting for either party is to keep the status quo. Reform within this election framework is impossible. ONLY other alternative if violence but everybody but brain dead trump voters know this is a bad idea for peasants. We will get killed by volumes.

The only alternative left is to DENY ENGAGEMENT.