• Rhaedas@fedia.io
      57·
      8 months ago

      I didn’t mind the idea of Snoke. A power vacuum means someone else moves in. He didn’t even have to be the rumored Plagueis, just someone connected or whatever. Create a new lore that makes sense.

      But then he just died. Not even in a fight, but through arrogant ignorance. He could see Kylo’s thoughts before, but somehow missed that he was being played? Stupid writing. I’m actually still a fan of TFA, and will defend what it was trying to do, but the other two movies can rot.

      • wjrii@lemmy.worldEnglish
        27·
        8 months ago

        I maintain that killing Snoke as a red herring could be fine, too. I find a tragically irredeemable Kylo Ren to be much more interesting than tall skinny emperor anyway. But even if one didn’t like TLJ, TROS was almost the worst possible way to follow it up. It satisfied no one.

        • Renacles@lemmy.worldEnglish
          13·
          8 months ago

          I was convinced that they were setting up Kylo as the big bad, I can’t think of the last time Star Wars had a tragic, irredeemable villain. It could have worked really well.

          • JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.worldEnglish
            5·
            8 months ago

            I like what they were going for in TFA with kind of an inverse Luke Skywalker, where he was struggling with the “pull” to the Light, before fully committing himself by killing his Master in TLJ. Then whatever the fuck TROS was happened and none of that really worked anymore.

        • Asetru@feddit.orgEnglish
          11·
          8 months ago

          And if that wasn’t enough, they end what they call the Skywalker Saga with all Skywalkers dead and a Palpatine claiming their name and heritage.

      • samus12345@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        8 months ago

        It’s been a while since I’ve seen it, but why was the body he was in all rotting and gross if he had freshly cloned bodies to use?

          • samus12345@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            8 months ago

            You’d think he would have kept some younger clones around, just in case. But then, he also was sure that Luke would join him and Anakin wouldn’t betray him even though that’s literally how the Sith work.

  • caseyweederman@lemmy.caEnglish
    19·
    8 months ago

    Actually in the first second wave of comics, Luke joins the dark side to locate and raze Palpatine’s cloning factory. There’s a deeply meaningful scene where Han and Leia retrieve him and have to convince him that he’s redeemable after everything he did to fit in.

    • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      8 months ago

      That was the second wave of comics. The first ones were the ones Marvel put out while the OT was still being made and which continued for a few years after RotJ.

    • Kusimulkku@lemm.eeEnglish
      2·
      8 months ago

      That’s a cool idea, but my kneejerk reaction would be to fit in to find something else. Cloning takes away meaningfulness from killing Palpy-B

      • caseyweederman@lemmy.caEnglish
        1·
        8 months ago

        That’s the point. It took their victory away from them, and would keep doing so.
        The movies fell flat so hard because they didn’t use it as a vehicle to explore anything, characterwise or emotionally. They missed the point and turned it into a plot speed bump.

          • nuez_jr@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            7 months ago

            The prophecy of the Chosen One who would bring balance to the Force for a little while.

    • finitebanjo@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      8 months ago

      He was also impaled by a lightsaber and his lifelong friend Chewy fought to the death immediately afterwards but its all a moot point since Ford hated playing him anyways.

        • finitebanjo@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          8 months ago

          Yeah but being cut in half increases your survival rate, statistically.

          Darth Maul: cut in half, thrown down shaft, lived

          Qui Gon Jin: Impaled, laid on floor, died

  • drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.worldEnglish
    11·
    8 months ago

    They really fucked up their villains. Snoke needed to be more then just some guy. Phasma could have been a great side villian and gave Finn something to do. Huxley was incredibly portrayed and really came off as a threat before they made him into a clown and killed him off just like they did Phasma. A b plot where the villains have a Game of Thrones style intrigue going on would have been rad.

    But nope, going back to Palpatine.

    • stellargmite@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      8 months ago

      I remember little about the prequels but for some reason I remember Darth Grevious dying by slipping on a banana peel. Consistant line of cool villains dying in stupid ways in star wars post 80s. Boba Fetts demise was silly I guess.