• @vin
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    would apply to anyone who is a tax resident in France or who has assets in France.

    Awesome!

  • @[email protected]
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    What’s the downside? If they move away, you haven’t lost anything because they weren’t paying taxes anyway. If they stay, you have just gained tax revenue. And it isn’t like you are going to lose a lot of sales tax money or real estate tax money, since they are not going to stop visiting Paris and buying luxury goods and are not going to sell their properties (that’s why they are so wealthy in the first place).

    Also, if they move away then you have fewer billionaires fucking up politics.

    • @[email protected]
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      No, you don’t understand, if the gajillionaires leave, then who will exploit our workers and take bail-out money from the government?

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      Capitalist threats of leaving are hilarious. Oh no the non-contributors will leave. The workers are the economy. If capital flight becomes a problem that’s only a problem within a larger capitalist framework.

      Let them all leave, then we can own our own labour output.

    • Dem Bosain
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      But billionaires are the only source of jobs and if nobody is there to buy yachts how will the trickle-down economics work?

  • Flying SquidM
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    I like the “they’ll just move somewhere else” arguments about these wealth taxes. First of all, no they won’t. They like their luxury penthouses in Paris and their mansions on the Riviera. Secondly, that’s just an argument for having this tax everywhere else too.

    And you know, if Russia (or wherever) doesn’t want to have a wealth tax and all the billionaires move there, I’m not really seeing the downside.

    • @[email protected]
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      You can implement exit taxes. I think some countries have that already. If you are a billionare, you will have to give up a fixed percentage of your wealth if you move.

      • Flying SquidM
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        Hey, no one is saying they get to take their assets with them when they move to Russia to avoid those billionaire taxes.

    • @[email protected]
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      We had a famous actor Gérard Depardieu move to Russia and renounce his French citizenship because of a 75% tax on earnings over 1 million P/A.

      Unsurprisingly he also has been charged with rape and is a Putin lapdog. So getting rid of him was a net positive.

    • @[email protected]
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      They already don’t pay taxes anyways, so pay up or leave is perfectly ok but remember to pay you sales tax when you sell your mansions and cottages.

  • atro_city
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    French lawmakers on Friday voted in favour of a new levy that would tax assets above the €1 billion threshold at 2%.

    2%? 🤣🤣🤣

    Oh well, it’s something…

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      For a wealth tax that is quite substantial.

      Every year paying 2% on the wealth above the threshold means you have to make at least 2% ROI on these assets to stay neutral with the money. That also means there is more of an interest to actually invest the money in economic activity, rather than buy assets that just appreciate price, while being tucked away in some warehouses.

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      I know 2% is fairly laughable when we’re talking normal people money, but this is 20 million per 1 billion.

      when simply considering the 10 biggest fortunes in France, the tax would bring in no less than €13bn for the state.

      A country can do a decent bit of good for people with 13 billion.

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          That would be amazing! No need for 2% to be the end goal instead of just a good start. A good government serves all its citizens, not just the ones with big bank accounts.

          • Flying SquidM
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            And I would suggest that by starting at 2%, it will be easier to get to 6% later, whereas if you try to start at 6%, you may get too much opposition.

    • @[email protected]
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      It’s a first step. One thing this will (hopefully) provide is more accurate data on exactly how much wealth is being hoarded. The current data is being assumed to be underestimating the actual numbers

    • @[email protected]
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      It’s a wealth tax and not an income tax? Interesting. Is it annual, or just once, or what?

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    Le Coq suggested that when simply considering the 10 biggest fortunes in France, the tax would bring in no less than €13bn for the state.

    A 2% tax on billionaires. Give me a break.

    The point isn’t to bring in money, the point is to eliminate these blights on society by any means necessary. How bad will the world have to get before something that looks like this happens? When the world was more civilized - the world conservatives constantly pine for - the ultra-wealthy were taxed over 90%, because we knew that too much power in the hands of a single person was immensely dangerous. We knew this intrinsically from generations of being ruled by kings, but we got firsthand experience with it from them constantly fucking up the economy.

    There was shame in being wealthy. Hell, there was shame in being rich when I was growing up - it was understood that you couldn’t get mega-rich without stepping on the necks of the working class and being horrible people. It’s nearly Christmas - go rewatch It’s a Wonderful Life for crying out loud. 1946!