The original /r/piracy was purposefully gimped because Reddit received DMCAs for any random thing and didn’t even bother to follow up. Since we’re in new waters, I want things to be a bit more relaxed, but there’s a limit on how relaxed we can be, without starting to get lawsuits, which I will not be able to fight off. I also host other communities and interests which might cause me headaches.

Remember, this is a hobby project (and none of you scurvy dogs are donating) :D

So here are some piracy-related ground rules for he whole of lemmy.dbzer0.com as of today

  1. No direct links. This means anything which would make Nintendo or Disney light my ass on fire. I am not going to ban you for it (unless you start doing this on purpose), but I will ask admins and mods to remove them.
  2. You can link to websites pages related to piracy. Linking to websites linking to your content (not with a 301 redirect, before you ask) is OK. In general try to keep one degree of separation between our collective groins and your links.
  3. Magnet Links and links to Torrent files are OK, unless we start getting into trouble for it.
  4. /c/piracy has its own, more restrictive rules. Follow them first when they differ from what I post here! /c/piracy is for generic discussion, I don’t want it to turn into a link repository full of beggars, got it?
  5. These rules apply to all pirate communities in lemmy.dbzer0.com. Unless that community has more restrictive rules from its own mods. I can easily get a lawsuit because you start making a nintendo ROM link repository.
  6. You can still post direct links elsewhere: If you want a place to post direct links, I suggest you use a community on a server setup to handle this. This requires some significant investment in anonymity and hosting provider (these providers are 3x as expensive, yo!). You can still subscribe and share from those communities with your account in lemmy.dbzer0.com, which can serve as your “port of safety” as those lemmies could be taken down due to those links. If that happens, this safer community will still be up.

All in all, this lemmy is supposed to be Pirate-allied, but not a direct link repository. I literally cannot handle that legal risk at the moment. I hope you all understand the realities of our situation. As much as we can argue that a link to a file is not infringing, the Cartel’s legal fund is bottomless, and all I have is a tinsy-tiny treasure chest under my birdbath.

If any pirate communites need to migrate after this, I understand. I would still suggest you keep them around as the “safe” community, and post your link aggregation on a lemmy instance which can handle the eye of sauron. This way you get both a stable community and account, and your links via fediverse. Win-win.

        • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPMEnglish
          2·
          11 hours ago

          The sporadic encrypted link would be OK, but nothing becoming standardized. If we become known as a link sharing site, we’ll get in trouble.

          • nodrm@lemmy.mlEnglish
            1·
            10 hours ago

            The fundamental reason for saying this is that I am one of the representatives of a Korean piracy community. We used to utilize shortfile hosting to share stuff like scene and 0day with link encryption + base64. But for some reason our community died and we became internet refugees and we were looking for a place on the web to create another pirate community and this is where we found it. If you welcome us or don’t welcome us for some reason, please let me know why and if you don’t welcome us, please let me know a decent alternative.

            • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPMEnglish
              2·
              9 hours ago

              You’re of course welcome here. It’s just a matter of how likely your practices is to lead to us being targeted, you know? If you’re going to share the occasional link encrypted between yourselves, it should be fine. But if you start posting whole directories of links, it might be a problem. However a hybrid option where you have a comm here for discussions and you use things like pastebins to host your link collection should work.

              If you give me some idea of how you plan to utilize the comm, I can give some more practical pointers on how to ensure we’re not in danger.

              • nodrm@lemmy.mlEnglish
                1·
                8 hours ago

                To give a brief description of the existing community, it’s basically in Korean and consists of chatting about piracy, sharing information like ripped.guide, and for data, you make a request (the request format is scene name and predb), someone uploads it, and it’s shared via the aforementioned encryption and base64. What I would like to get is to change the whole operation and the way requests and uploads are done to be as low risk as possible, but I’ve already tried chatting like a matrix and it didn’t work. Oh, and here’s the community as it’s currently built:) https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/highway

                • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPMEnglish
                  1·
                  8 hours ago

                  The problem is, if you were to do this, it would defacto makes us a piracy indexer, as the names of the releases the the relevant link to get them would be on our website. This could cause the copyright cartel to go after us and we can’t defend against that. If you could arrange to have the index externally (for example, on a rentry.co entry) and then when someone requests a link, you point them to that to ctrl+f, it could work.

    • jmf@lemm.eeEnglish
      12·
      2 years ago

      Yeah the megalinks community’s new forum does that extensively, seems to keep links alive and untroubled for a long time.

      • krackalot@vlemmy.net
        4·
        2 years ago

        I feel the link system is stronger. They could discover the tool and add it to their scraper, but having it follow one link and use another is likely harder for them to accomplish.

  • juusukun@lemmy.caEnglish
    28·
    2 years ago

    Arrrr matey, I code all my pirate maps in base64. I suggest ye do the same, matey. Arrrrrrrggggh 🦜

    • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPMEnglish
      34·
      2 years ago

      Thank you! Currently the costs would be close to 40 Eur per month, but I’m using some shared resources so the split is not exact. More than 30 Eur for sure.

  • eric3a@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    25·
    2 years ago

    Rules that make sense. And I just donated a few days of server use. Ain’t much but it’s honest piracy.

  • Amongog@kbin.social
    19·
    2 years ago

    I remember not too long ago (before the discord server went kaput, for other reasons) Sin Eater’s Cove discord server posted all links encrypted, and they had a cool bot that could message you the decoded link privately.

    Maybe a future bot here could do the same.

    But for now posting the encrypted links would be good, just as an extra layer of protection.

    I think it’s a healthy standard practice to implement when sailing high seas.

  • Deref@kbin.social
    13·
    2 years ago

    This gives me an idea. Make a federated torrent site. It would be practically impossible to take down and one instance going offline because they don’t have money wouldn’t destroy everything like in RARBG’s case.

  • taaz@biglemmowski.winEnglish
    13·
    2 years ago

    This requires some significant investment in anonymity and hosting provider (these providers are 3x as expensive, yo!).

    What is meant by these? Any links, I mean, pointers?

  • R3V1BE@waveform.socialEnglish
    10·
    2 years ago

    How do you feel about some advertising? I have some rare lost games (as in the torrents are dead/non existent). Would it be ok if I shared magnets to them at some point?

  • topranks@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    9·
    2 years ago

    Fully agree. Tbh I’d have no problem even if you said no magnet or torrent links. It’s good to have places for discussion, there are other places to actually go and find those things. Thanks for all the work setting this up hoping it takes off!