• Kokesh
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    622 days ago

    When you think about the Cristian lore… It is a pile of insane bullsh…t

    • datendefekt
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      81 day ago

      A part of my family is extremely religious, and borderline fundamentalist. After a while I’ve been able accept the fact that some people want to know how the world works, and some want to believe.

      I know that my death won’t be much different than if our dog dies. My consciousness will cease to exist, and I’ll either get burnt or decompose. Many people are filled with existential dread and look to religion to comfort them. And that’s cool for them.

      And then their things beyond your understanding, that you fill with little stories. Sickness isn’t something that can be prevented by a shot, it’s a punishment. Not getting kids? A punishment. Pork? Haram because Allah said so, not because refrigeration didn’t exist. Whatever makes you happy!

      The problem I got is that these people are easily lied to and manipulated by authority. The religious right are so easily played by Trump it’s embarrassing as a human being.

      • dullbananas (Joseph Silva)
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        21 day ago

        I wish more of them would live like this: “Pray as though everything depended on God. Work as though everything depended on you.” - Saint Augustine

        • @leftzero
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          It’s the opposite of cool. Cringey as fuck, is what it is.

          If you don’t want to use a word, fucking don’t. Use a fucking synonym, for fuck’s sake, or phrase it differently.

          But don’t go making your bullshit harder to read just so you can justify to yourself using a word that makes you feel uncomfortable because you’re too damaged to function properly in society. Doing that you’re being the worst kind of hypocrite, because you’re only lying to yourself.

          Cool…? Fucking pathetic is the word you’re looking for.

          • @[email protected]
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            113 hours ago

            Imagine getting this worked up over something so trivial. Who gives a fuck if someone says f*ck.

          • @[email protected]
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            Alternatively, pi_sing off people who call things cringe is based as f_ck so maybe I’ll start self censoring.

          • Lemminary
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            142 days ago

            A lot of behaviors are learned and people have learned that using profanity in most places gets you in trouble. I don’t think it’s fair to berate anyone for what is essentially a social expectation in many other circles.

            Good thing Lemmy isn’t like that. But, please, lighten the fuck up.

            • @[email protected]
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              41 day ago

              It’s just the opposite social expectation here. And honestly it bothers me not because some people do it but because it feels like american puritanism taking over online spaces because it’s even in screenshots. Like holy shit you’re quoting someone just leave the swearing in.

            • @leftzero
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              142 days ago

              using profanity in most places gets you in trouble

              Most places in the theocratic kleptocracy of Magastan, I assume; a few places (or circumstances) in the civilised world, which in most cases can be avoided due to them being excessively silly.

              In any case, though, that’s not the fucking point.

              If you don’t want to use a word, don’t fucking use it. Use a fucking synonym, or euphemism, or metaphor, or insinuation, or whatever.

              Using most of the word but censoring one of the letters, however, is so utterly stupid and hypocritical that it’s insulting both to the readers and the writer. You’re still using the word, just with an intentional typo. You’re not lying to anyone except yourself.

              lighten the fuck up

              No, I don’t think I will.

              • Lemminary
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                Most places in the theocratic kleptocracy of Magastan, I assume; a few places (or circumstances) in the civilised world

                Places including IRL and online spaces. Anywhere, from businesses and public chats to online videos. Quite a lot of media we consume also needs to be swear-free and that rubs off. It’s no coincidence “unalive” and “grape” have become a thing on TikTok and elsewhere. There’s a surprising amount of censorship around us. And even if it’s not a written rule, it’s generally frowned upon to curse. I don’t know of a place that encourages cursing but an overwhelming number that discourage it.

                Using most of the word but censoring one of the letters, however, is so utterly stupid and hypocritical that it’s insulting both to the readers and the writer. You’re still using the word, just with an intentional typo. You’re not lying to anyone except yourself.

                Sure, but I’m not encouraging any of that.

                • @leftzero
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                  Quite a lot of media we consume also needs to be swear-free

                  No it doesn’t.

                  It’s no coincidence “unalive” and “grape” have become a thing on TikTok and elsewhere

                  Fuck TikTok, and fuck any imbecile who uses those words unironically.

                  There’s a surprising amount of censorship around us.

                  And it’s our moral duty to fight it and to ridicule and oppose anyone who doesn’t.

                  it’s generally frowned upon to curse

                  No it’s not.

                  Again, the theocratic kleptocracy of Magastan isn’t an example of how the civilised world works.

                  Where I’m from, for instance, “I shit on God” is practically an interjection, like “fuck” in English (though the usage seems to be waning as the country becomes more secular), and calling each other “son — or daughter — of a whore” is considered a term of endearment.

          • @[email protected]
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            122 days ago

            You seem very upset about this.

            An adult choosing to slightly censor a word has you in meltdown mode. Gosh.

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              Abject wilful idiocy irks me. 🤷‍♂️

              Also, I was in the toilet and had time to type.

    • Kernal64
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      342 days ago

      Indeed! Also, this is the internet. You’re allowed to say bullshit.

      • @[email protected]
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        172 days ago

        No! That’s $10 fine! Send me a private message and I’ll give you the address to send the iTunes gift card serial number to pay the fine(yes internet fines are only payable in iTunes gift cards)

    • Troy
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      It’s basically a zombie death cult. This powerful necromancer has to die to become a lich, releasing his soul into a phylactery which happens to be the souls of his believers (and making it really hard to destroy his phylactery). Then his believers are promised that they will come back as undead, as a reward for carrying a part of this “holy ghost” phylactery. What a racket.

      • Kokesh
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        82 days ago

        This should be on Wikipedia as description of Christianity

    • lime!
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      142 days ago

      i mean it’s mostly all metaphor and allegory, meant to teach you lessons rather than to act as a historical document.

      it’s like a book of fables for people who think animals are silly

        • lime!
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          32 days ago

          personally i am a fan of “keep your religion to yourself”, “don’t use the veil of the church as a means to make money”, “help those that others cast out, like sex workers”, “don’t engage in stereotype”, and “rich people go to hell”.

        • @[email protected]
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          82 days ago

          “Treat women and children like property. Always blame victims. Take slaves from neighboring countries, never your own.”

          Lots of great lessons in that holiest of books.

        • @leftzero
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          it’s not cannibalism because the bread and wine still keep all their properties after turning into Jesus 🤓

          You could make a perfectly cromulent meringue out of human blood, and it’d have all the properties of a meringue made out of eggs (no, seriously, blood is effectively a one to one culinary equivalent of eggs, except for the taste and allergens)… but it’d still be made out of human blood. 🤷‍♂️

        • datendefekt
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          It’s this kind of mental gymnastics that killed church for me. Jesus had a pretty decent moral framework set up, but people mangled into a bunch of hocus pocus.