I have no release the first pre-releases of the Haveno app, you’re welcome to visit the home page to download the binary, please be aware the first build collected telemetry over tor, and fails if for some reason you’re not connected, if you’re not comfortble with any telemetry being collected you can follow the guide in the documentation on Haveno building fro source, where telemetry is already removed.
We just use telemetry to report errors, that’s all, it help greatly in detecting issues the user doesn’t immediately see.
Perhaps at some point I’ll address the drama, but I’m more inclined to fixed and bugs you might have for the meantime, I’ve released most of you are actually having trouble with with getting past the on-boarding stage, I have fixes for both of those coming up today so you will see a working app where you can login and pot trades today again this will just be from Android and Linux and then in few days .
Linking to haveno.com while the original haveno site is haveno.exchange. Also haveno.com links to the supposed mobile version without clarifying it obviously! Which contains telemetry?!
I’m not going to touch this until the drama situation is solved i.e. all source code is available. And I recommend everyone does the same.
Sorry kewbit IF you’re in fact legit, but after I read how you behaved/reacted and acted with regards to CCS etc. I lost ALL trust I had.
Everyone, be careful!
I appreciate the new release, but I’m not sure I’m comfortable with telemetry being collected for any reason.
Telemetry has no place in this. Without full source code and reproducible builds this could be spyware or worse for all we know.
Can someone explain what is going on, or link to something? This all seems sketchy, almost like a hijacking of the project, but I’m guessing not as there is talk of a CCS.
Also, why is the only network listed aloha? why not reto, which tbh thought was the only one.
There has been a bunch of drama specifically about this CCS. Reto was censored because Kewbit believes I run it (lol) and wanted to “punish” me for demanding source code before CCS payout.
I have now released*
Perhaps opt-in to telemetry for debugging purposes? I personally won’t run a bin or send any sort of data that calls home.
Thanks Kewbit. I hope this is a misunderstanding that can be resolved. That being said, it’s unlikely many people will beta test a binary without source code, especially if the main reason to use Haveno is to avoid KYC. IMO, it’s probably best to address the drama and move on. Since you’re likely gun shy about speaking out, it’s perhaps best to contact a diplomatic friend that can help express your side and why you don’t feel comfortable releasing the code and what would it take to do it.
IMO, there would only be two reasons why you’ve sent out a follow up post here: (1) You were sincere but made some bad judgements (e.g. timelines, amount of work, how much XMR you needed, “life got in the way”, overreactions that cascaded, the code is uglier than you thought and wanted to clean it up, etc) and you hope there’s some way forward, (2) You’re hoping to make more money either through binary back doors or selling data or convincing people to fund the rest of the project outside of CSS so you can scam them.
I haven’t decided which conclusion to make. At the beginning of the last crypto crash most people were angry at the original Haveno team for halting work when the price of XMR crashed with many calling that team scammers. They made a poor judgement on pricing and could have avoided the drama if they priced their work in USD (paid with XMR). Of course, if XMR continued to go up they’d miss out on the USD gains, but fair is fair. Either you want security or risk. Choosing one and then complaining about not choosing the other isn’t fair. When they continued their work once the XMR price appreciated and released, all past accusations were forgotten (I know I did until tried to remember an example) and they were and still are appreciated for their hard work.
If you are sincerely #1 and are able to express yourself reasonably, there is a way back. If not, #2 will be the conclusion most people will make and releasing the binaries without source code will reinforce this conclusion.
