• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
    57·
    2 years ago

    Everything you wrote implies I blamed immigrants, which is entirely a lie.

    Wasn’t my intention. What I meant to say is that, in spite of not blaming the immigrants themselves, you’re blaming things on immigration that simply are not caused by immigration.

    they can increase immigration to weaken the working class

    That’s the crux of it: they can’t. Immigration is a net benefit to the economy as a whole, ESPECIALLY the working class.

    This has been done

    No. They made it up. Immigration doesn’t hurt you.

    Advocating for labor and tenants is not right-wing. Advocating for higher wages is not right-wing. Blaming capital, rather than migrants is not right-wing.

    True, but you’re still missing my point: even when not blaming the immigrants themselves, you’re helping the right wing when you repeat their bogus talking points. No matter how different your intentions and attitude towards immigrants are.

    Right-wing politics tried to shame people who resist anti-labor, anti-tenant, anti-worker policies.

    And also made up causal relationships, having so much success doing so that even seemingly good people like yourself repeat their lies.

      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
        36·
        2 years ago

        If we had (…) immigration would not be harmful.

        I’m getting tired of repeating the simple fact that it already isn’t. Stop repeating the propaganda of those we’re fighting against, please.

        Without certain socialist policies in place first, high immigration weakens the leverage workers have.

        First of all: no. That’s simply not true. Second of all, the US has low immigration per capita compared to most countries.

          • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
            42·
            2 years ago

            No, what I’m doing is disabusing you of false notions, that you haven’t provided any proof of yourself.

            Study showing that immigration depressing wages is close to zero at first and actually INCREASES productivity and wages in the long run.

            As for property prices, compare this to the fact that net immigration is declining. .

            I believe in fact-based arguments, not blindly repeating commonly believed lies and complaining about being shamed when others point it out.