• @[email protected]
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    105 hours ago

    They dont. The US isn’t a democracy, its a plutocracys.

    Stop parroting the oligarchs that punch down. Blame the oppressors.

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      https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1bLmjKzZ43eLIxZb1Bt9iNAo8ZAZ01Huy/htmlview

      The actual Emerson college survey has it at 58.7% of the people find the shooters actions as completely unacceptable. True 16.5% find it completely or somewhat acceptable. Lots of neutral and unsure at 15.9% and somewhat unacceptable at 9%.

      BTW this poll isn’t perfectly accurate in who they sampled as 37% south,17.7% northeast , 52% women, 18% post doc, 24% college grad,also so many old people versus young. The demographics aren’t properly proportional.

      That being said best insights we have polling though may be a way of the past

      • @[email protected]
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        In the context of people giving contradictory support to Luigi and denying health care, the neutral responses don’t matter much.

        • @[email protected]
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          Personally I think it does as the institutional and mainstream answer is completely unacceptable. To have so many waver or not want to answer is pretty telling/meaningful. IMO

  • @[email protected]
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    Fox News and other right-wing networks convince them they are voting for (or more frequently against) something else. Most of those people simply don’t know, and won’t believe you if you tell them.

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    Folks saying racism are wrong. It is an -ism though, just not that one. IMO it’s Classism. Same reason they flip shit when someone mentions raising the minimum wage. “Flipping burgers is for teens”, meanwhile 1pm on a Tuesday they’re getting a Whopper completely oblivious to the fact that there isn’t a single person under 30 working there.

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    It’s simple:

    The free market works as long as we get rid of these evil people.

    Oh why can’t we have a Bruce Wayne who is altruistic and would save us since we clearly can’t trust the public to hold a lot of power.

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      Someone in another thread (maybe on Reddit, I don’t remember) posited that this is a direct consequence of America’s notion of individualism and I haven’t been able to get that out of my head since.

      It’s a slippery slope from individualism to the fear of the Other.

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        The United States has fetishized individualism. Enough of the population feels that the individual is above/outside/not part of society. And honestly it’s hard to blame them as non participation is becoming the norm due to financial stress, health stress, blatant lack of education, a clear path towards a state sponsored media while the rest of the media just rolls over.

        As stress levels rise the commonality guys down. People withdraw from their communities for various reasons and then society starts to compartmentalize. Tribalism becomes the next big thing and before you know it two poor people are fighting because team blue and team red are now mortal enemies that are not allowed to share a single common view.

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    First Past The Post voting artificially limiting the number of viable political parties.

    “How can people support human rights domestically when they support genocide abroad?”

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    I had this argument with my mom the other day. She agrees private healthcare is a broken system and needs to be fixed, but you bring up public healthcare and she’ll fight tooth and nail to argue against it. It’s insane. Literal “no take, only throw” tier mindset

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      Propaganda. People have been told their whole lives that socialism is pure evil, nevermind what socialism actually is. Public healthcare is socialism, therefore it’s evil.

  • @[email protected]
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    My parents hate the insurance companies. But they’ve been convinced by the right wing that the government would handle things worse.

    • @[email protected]
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      Which is stupid because the government already provides the majority of healthcare in this country and is doing it quite well. Medicare has a 90+% approval rate from the people who use it and it is far more efficient than private insurance.

  • @[email protected]
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    They believe in a free market but also believe the free market is currently corrupt.

    It’s like people who believe in monarchy but hate their corrupt baron.

  • Snot Flickerman
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    Believe it or not, some of the people cheering him on actually just like chaos and violence and don’t have any deeper politics.

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    My wife explains it like this:

    Racism.

    White voters will cut off their own nose before granting health care to black and brown people.

    • @Good_morning
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      Once upon a time I’d believe that was all it is/was. I’m convinced now it’s more of an uninformed voter thing. “My dad/family/church/friend votes republican and he’s a good guy. Besides Fox says if the demoncrats win they’ll destroy everything I care about. Sure there’s talk about racism/sexism/etc but I don’t personally see it or have a problem with minorities, LGBTQ, or women, it’s probably just political mudslinging. There’s no way the people I love would support them if they really said those things.”

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    Because they don’t realize that it will affect them. They think “this won’t hurt me because I actually need Medicare. I’m going to stick it to all the freeloaders, of which I am not one.”

    But just like being in a car, you aren’t stuck in traffic, you are traffic.