• @[email protected]
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    There’s 2 possible reasons to have “military” escort. either…

    1. They must protect the perp from assassination.
    2. They must prevent mob from liberating him.
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    I love this place. Post anything about this on reddit and it’s likely to be removed if it gets too positive or the bots downvote it.

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      Reddit is a place to promote product. This isn’t product. Give it time and big lemmy servers will turn into reddit, but for now we get to enjoy a safe space.

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        Thankfully, because of the way Lemmy is built, we will forever have smaller communities that don’t turn into garbage like that.

      • NoSpiritAnimal
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        The NY charge calls for a specific action taken against a government entity.

        Unless UHC is part of the government, but corporations as government is Musolini style fascism, and the US isn’t a fascist country, right?

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          So, I’ve heard he didn’t actually have UHC. There’s also no confirmation of a denied claim, just the fact that he had back pain. Luigi targeted Brian because UHC was the largest insurance provider in the country, not because he was personally denied a particular claim. The guy was doing long distance hiking and running months before the slaying.

          TrueAnon podcast has a great deep dive into who Luigi was and what his potential motives were.

          He’s got a background in Effective Altruism, he got into the Dark Enlightenment movement, and was involved with a number of Silicon Valley gurus with particularly extremist ideology.

          Far from simply being an unhappy customer, it’s likely he’s a real life “Radical Centrist” who got pilled on far center neoliberal ideology.

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          I’d say that yes it was definitely at least partially politically motivated, since it was just as much an attack against the system as it was against the person, but hardly terrorism since there was no intent to scare the general public.

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            He probably did intend to scare insurance company executives. I can see calling it terrorism, even if I think he should get off.

            I’ve dealt with back pain, and during the height of my battle with the insurer I absolutely would’ve been tempted to kill the fuckers given the chance.

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            ….so? How many killers before him have written a manifesto? Are all these school shooters, attacking actual public schools, being charged with terrorism? They’re actually striking out at “the system.” How many white supremacists mass shootings have written manifestos and not been charged with terrorism?

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            American soldiers regularly paint imagery and words on the ammunition and vehicles they use to kill people. Are they terrorists too?

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                sigh yes you’re the third or fourth person to make this joke. Yes I agree.

                The point is that nobody calls them terrorists for doing that. Putting words or art on weapons and ammo is considered “normal” as twisted as that is. So Luigi’s doing it does not make him a terrorist.

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              The military is political. It is literally policy when the military moves. Anything any military does is dictionary terrorism. But terrorism is a nasty word for it so we don’t call it that.

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                I mean I’d agree lol but I doubt this person equates Luigi and the average American soldier painting a bomb. That’s my point. Writing on a bullet case or writing a political statement doesn’t make one terrorist. It’s the violent acts and who they’re directed at any why that determine it.

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    I’m gonna steel man this one and state that those officers are there to protect him more than protect others from him. That’s why school shooters have fewer officers escorting them, because who the fuck cares if somebody murders those monsters.

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      …they’re upset everyone is cheering for this guy. Are they worried a CEO or 1% is going to shoot him? lol everyone else loves him.

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    They sure do love taking and posting pictures of him and then yelling at people to not give him any press. How many pics have we seen of him in custody? They dont want coverage of him silenced, they want to control that narrative. US justice system is a sad broken dishonest state of affairs.

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    If they bring out a regiment to guard your show trial you’re almost certainly on the right side of history.

    Probably.

    90%

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      Right side of History, sure, but,

      For it’s the end of history

      It’s caged and frozen still

      There is no other pill to take

      So swallow the one

      That made you ill

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        you know, that the end of history crap is what that song criticizes, making it a really strange way to reply to someone saying something is on the right side of history.

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          Thanks for clarifying. I always thought he meant that our masters were pretending history had stopped and we were frozen in the current moment forever so nothing they do matters.

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    Can we stop having school shooters and make this a trend instead? 🙏🏾

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      Is the fucking Mayor of New York in that picture? Wtf this just surreal. Our fucking hero being perp walked like this.

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        Fascinating that he’s right behind him. Perfect photo op. Isn’t he accused of crimes right now? Or just his close associates?

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                I assume the jury will be selected from Manhattan as that’s where the event occurred. Anybody know if they pull from all boroughs or not?

                If I lived in New York I’d be printing stacks of paper to post everywhere. Black and white. Something like… Luigi Fired in Self Defense and in the Defense of Others. Put this photo on it. Below that a few simply worded facts about the insurance industry killing people for profit. Then a QR code link to something explaining jury nullification in simple terms and why you can’t speak about it during jury selection.

                And how you can’t post about being selected for the jury or really tell anyone at all.

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          Run the Jewels going to have to take it. Rage broke up again.

          Speaking of, it’s about time for a new RTJ. I’ll bet anyone a million dollars they rap about Luigi.

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            Zac was a Silly-Billy and broke his leg (not the first time he’s tripped on stage) and so they cancel a world tour AND never tour again? Dayum.

            Also, ain’t no-one gonna call that bet 😅

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    I saw this on the news and honestly wondered how many cops are required for this prisoner transfer? Because all those people are getting paid to walk a guy past cameras, and they’re probably all getting paid more than me, and there’s SO many of them

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      “Ah, yep, absolutely doing work here. Work, work, work. Dangerous work. Don’t defund us and here’s the evidence to support why.”

      • Multiple U.S. Police Departments Probably
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          “I stayed vigilant(e) like Batman and he’s a Billionaire! I deserve the overtime penalty rates! … Plus remember all the danger?!”

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      Probably overtime for all of them too. These low IQ “heroes” all have boats and RVs which arent going to pay for themselves.

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        Yeah the brownshirts get perks to make them feel better than the proletariat. They rub elbows with the bourgeoisie, and occasionally with the oligarchs, making them feel like part of the in-group. Meanwhile the bourgie think of them as disgusting necessary idiots and the oligarchs think of them as filthy trained dogs.

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        Yeah, the thing that’s shocked me is how my most capitalist liberal friends are in agreement he did nothing wrong. Like some of them are even agreeing when I use the phrase “class warfare”

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    I think they want to intimidate others, but honestly giving him this much of a spotlight should be the dream of anyone thinking about attacking another CEO for attention.

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        This is the same country that tries to fight radicals in other countries by invading, oppressing, and ultimately creating more radicals. Our elite have little understanding of the socially deviant

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        Maybe the cops are playing both sides? I’m definitely giving them too much credit there, but maybe?

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          While I’m sure there is no love lost towards healthcare execs from even the police, an uptick of “terrorism” could also be used as an excuse to give even more power to the police as well.

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            Our systems and hierarchies do often support the oligarchy, but that does not mean every single individual supports the oligarchy, or that every single thing our systems do are meant to advance the goals of the ultra rich. Sometimes individuals who participate in these systems do malicious compliance, sometimes they don’t comply at all.

            In this case there could be someone high-up who is empathetic(or a group of empathetic people unaware of each other, their actions adding up) whose decisions led to this happening, or this could have just been a dumb decision, who knows.

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            I dont think they need an excuse, they just do whatever they want now. Thats what electing trump is all about, letting them run amuck unrestrained.

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          That’s definitely giving them too much credit.

          They are probably trying to reduce the number of eligible jurors who would acquit him.

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            Insurers fuck cops over too. While I doubt it’s an act of solidarity with the rest of us peasants, it could actually be an enemy-of-my-enemy situation where cops find themselves hating UHC as much as the rest of us.

            How crazy would it be if the next Luigi is a cop?!

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        Because their jobs financing is mostly perception based.

        Crime can be at an all time low, but all it takes is a politician to rile up the population about murderers and law enforcement and incarceration will end up getting more money.

        Be seen as being ineffective, soft or incompetent, especially by those holding the purse strings, and people lose jobs to those who will toe the line.

        This is a message to the wealthy “look how seriously we take serving you”