original post in: https://lemmy.world/post/23364294
You know, i do actually very often concur with these kinds of content, like the ones saying billionaires are leaches on society and governments are often used as a weapon to protect the ruling classes.
But man… when i come to lemmy i kinda want to only see memes, and funny stuff… even communities that are not niches to political content get political way too often. Like gotdammit, when i get to c/comics i just want to see funny drawings, i’m way too tired to want to see your lame class war comic…
Is that a feeling i’m the only one feeling?
edit: i think what makes it worse is that very often they’re not even funny, just literal propaganda, “good guy propaganda”, maybe, but still propaganda
edit n2: edited title and body slightly to be “open ended” on mod’s request
As moderator of the community [email protected] I very much enjoy the leftist and anarchist stuff. Thanks for asking. ;)
opinion acknowledged, opinion respected.
Posts complaining about “politics” and “propaganda” are invariably made by people who want to see those things, just the kind aligned with their politics.
I think the first time I saw this meme format was around 2002-2004. And I’ve seen it 10,000 times since then. And if OP is posting this in good faith, this will be the first time.
And BTW, there is no such thing as a space without propaganda or politics. Only spaces where the politics and propaganda are homestyle and cozy.
I really mean it, this is “my kind” of propaganda. I’m just way too over-saturated with this stuff. Like it’s nice having a space to talk about that, but when we get to the point where “jokes” are just politics without any punchline i think the “jokes” become a bit pointless
It sounds like it’s time for you to take a break. Not for everyone else to alter their behavior to suit your desires.
Yeah, this is true, but that’s why this post is not on c/lemmysucks or something like that, the point of this post is just to see if other people share this opinion with me. This does not bring me rage or anything like that.
We are all fragile human creatures that share a sense of community and shared values, relatability is hardcoded on us, can’t i be human too ay?
Don’t worry about EleventhHour. They live to argue with anyone over stupid things. They’re trolling just to get a rise out of you.
Seemingly, you do not share the same values we do. You want us all to change just to suit your individual caprice. Most people here will find that request preposterous.
You don’t like a post, download it and move on. Lemmy and its communities aren’t going to reshape themselves just for you.
What, no, of course not. i don’t want to reshape lemmy, lemmy is great the way it is. Don’t be silly
Lemmy is doing so great? Then what is this entire post complaining about?
You talk out of both sides of your mouth.
Why are you angry at me mate? i’m not complaining, i’m just sharing my opinion.
Like i really do enjoy lemmy, people here are lovely. It’s just that people should stop pretending to tell jokes, when they aren’t. We can talk talk about issues, we don’t need jokes without punchlines to express ourselves, we have discussions and spaces for that
Posts complaining about “politics” and “propaganda” are invariably made by people who want to see those things, just the kind aligned with their politics.
I disagree, IMO a lot of it is just low effort trash spammed across multiple communities, multiplying how annoying it is. It’s not that I disagree with the idea, I just think “elites bad, updoots to the left” is mind numbingly lazy.
Totally agree. I find Lemmy more of an echo chamber than Reddit. Echo chambers are detrimental, no matter your view.
Honestly, I kinda enjoy seeing the opposite side, the lefty shit
It reminds me just how insane the left can actually get. Like y’all think taking guns is a good idea, that only the police should be armed. It’s just stupid.
I’ve never seen a leftist argue for unilateral disarming. Only liberals.
I don’t know about that. I’ve seen a lot of people claiming to be left wingers wanting to disarm people.
Usually other people.
Leftists often argue for unilateral disarming the minute after they win the revolution because their glorious revolutionary party couldn’t possibly betray the working class in any way.
I doubt that’d work out well for them
that only
the policepeople with extensive, proper training and proper psychological support and a demonstrated need to carry guns should be armedUgh, Lemmy.ml is so myopic and thin-skinned honestly.
I’m quite liberal, but holy shit their views on guns are ignorant. “We only want the cops and rich people armed!” The fuck?!
Why do they think the billionaire owned media bangs so hard against AR-15s? Ya know, the most effective antipersonnel rifle in existence? Because they know we can fight back. Remember that nutcase shooter in Maine? And not a word on the weapon used. Because it was an AR-10, and nobody knows what the fuck that is.
If you guys think the cops are bad now, imagine if they had zero fear we could shoot back. People forget, guns are as much, or more, of a deterrence than a weapon. LOL, there was a guy in the woods last week that would have happily beat my ass if I was open carrying. He was about to choke himself trying to be civil and polite.
Gays, blacks and women got the fucking memo, largest gun buying demographic for years. Suburban white boys haven’t figured it out yet. But they’re happy to post cute guillotine memes all day long.
This is a very American viewpoint. I can kinda’ understand why some people think that the solution to there being too many guns is “get more guns”, but most of the rest of the developed world thinks it’s bizarre.
I also recall reading a study that a gun in the home is more likely to be used on someone who lives in the home than an intruder.
Let’s be real. If the police start shooting at a civilian, good luck to the civilian who shoots back. More guns in the hands of the public is probably a big part of why American cops are so jumpy. When any interaction can turn into a shootout, and the police union will have their back no matter what they do…what do you expect to happen?
Note that I’m not defending police (or their unions) in the slightest. What I’m defending is anti-gun rhetoric.
(Yes, there are needs for guns. But American citizens defending themselves from police, spree shooters, and the US military is rarely more than a fantasy)
My opinion:
I just wish someone would stop with all those leftist memes like ‘future of humanity under socialism vs. capitalism’ because it’s just, in a crude manner, cringe. They’re not very unique, and fail to underline even the basic differences between the two ideologies.
Capitalism is not understood by everyone here, and I feel like those making this stuff are extremely young, have yet to understand what the world offers.
It’s clear that socialism does have its merits but making memes simply mocking capitalism without showing crude memes… not worth it.
I just downvote those kind of posts, they’re awfully low quality and low effort.
What annoys me is the assumption that socialism or communism would fix all of our problems and noone would ever do or feel something bad again.
I don’t mind edgy leftist memes, I just get annoyed at how overconfident MLs in particular are about their broader grasp of political philosophy.
I love it when they try to give me reading assignments. I was there when the deep magic was written, freshman!
In 99% of the cases they haven’t even read beyond the Wikipedia summary anyway, in my experience.
You’re lucky if they get that far. I’ve had people argue over facts that were easily verifiable by multiple sources. I’m too old to do their research for them.
Ultimately the ML types are pretty much identical to the sov cit types.
And so unwilling to share their thoughts or teach. It’s all “this is truth and you’re a terrible person for not already agreeing. Oh, Mao says you’re not allowed to ask questions for some reason.”
You are not the only one. I am starting to unsubscribe from communities that I feel like it is simply too much of. I get that people want it, and that’s their choice, but it’s feeling a bit overwhelming lately. I thought it might decrease after the USA election but… nope.
I have little patience for memes, and even less so political memes. The right wing stuff is all woman hating fascists, and the left wing stuff are people who would send me to a camp or chase me out of the country for having a slight disagreement with them on my specific take on socialism.
There’s often no room for discussion or disagreement, because “its a joke”. So at that point it’s just political brainwashing, no matter which side it is on.
Of course, sometimes it’s fun, and sometimes it’s good. There’s a role for humour to play in highlighting injustice and systemic absurdity. I’m not completely against it. I just have little patience for for it.
Which is why I mostly use this platform to look at pictures of owls.
Which is why I mostly use this platform to look at pictures of owls.
I don’t even know why they create other communities, does anyone even needs more than that?
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Is that a feeling i’m the only one feeling? edit: i think what makes it worse is that very often they’re not even funny, just literal propaganda, “good guy propaganda”, maybe, but still propaganda
I don’t think its your intention, but this kind of reads like “go be poor somewhere else”. The uptick in the messages you’re seeing are from people that are on the losing end of society, and that losing end is growing more and more all the time. So far I’m lucky (and it is just luck) to not be there, but I recognize that ignoring, or worse silencing, them is the wrong way to go.
Their messages have value because they aren’t being heard. If that keeps up, it will mean the shredding of our society and we all lose. So in short, I’m fine with the “class war” messages as they are here against the rich establishment.
I understand your view, but for a bit of context i’m poor too. I live in Brazil and my origin state the poorest in my country. The current region i live is also sometimes biased against people like me. My financial situation is also quite shit right now.
Maybe i’m trying to be an escapist, seeing my own problems on unfunny internet comics, but say “go be poor somewhere else” really wasn’t my intention with this post.
I have heard this sentiment before ie where people in stronger economic situations are more likely to birch endlesslly about class struggling while people beat down just need some escape.
You ain’t wrong we all got to cope.
The class struggle is just human condition. People have a right to cope as. They see fit.
I couldn’t say it better. You are absolutely right
People who complain about content on lemmy should probably just look for different communities. Or maybe not be psychotic right-wingers looking for 8chan edgelord content.
It does get very predictable and repetitive. I feel like the conversation goes the same way under each political meme.
It is really interesting that the original post got removed. Guess people don’t complain about .ml without reason.
What was the reason?
they just deleted it, no reason given as far as i’m concerned, maybe there is something on the modlog or something like that
https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=2710970
Removed Post Do you all also get tired of political/leftist/anarchist memes, comics and stuff?
reason: Community rule 2Thank you! Still really lame that they used that rule as an excuse -_-
People routinely get banned from all the communities across the entire instance for saying things that are negative - or not strongly positive enough - about the former communist nations especially Russia or China, or communism etc. You got off easy here merely having just the post removed. So you probably want to find other communities not on Lemmy.ml before this happens to you. As you did here!:-)
tired of seeing political content in non-political communities. I’m sure there’s a political memes community let us live in peace please.
I’m still trying to figure out why people think that yelling about Socialism is a great idea.
The Right figured it out years ago; go along to get along. Reagan was smart enough to put the first woman on the Supreme Court and made African-American Colin Powell his Number One guy.
It’s like they’d rather lose and be able to talk about how noble the cause is.
edit =getting down voted, but no one bothers to actually explain why they feel the need to use the unpopular term.
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OP be careful, you’ve inadvertently spoken the sacred incantation and summoned the dreaded political content right into this very thread!
I saw a post about someone who made sliders (mini hamburgers) and everyone they’d served them to so far liked them. I wish we had more posts like that one. The problem with Lemmy is there is not enough active niche communities for peoples interests. This is one thing Reddit does much better due to the scale of the user base.
It feels like a brief respite every time I stumble on a post like that.
[email protected] to discover active communities
They usually don’t post anything else. Or comment about anything else. Just block a few to thin the herd
