Your legacy is going to be a combination of the worst moments of Neville Chamberlain and Paul von Hindenburg. Nothing else.
Somebody crosspost this to NotTheOnion, because…
When he said he wasn’t ever going to pardon his son, I knew that wasn’t true, and so did he. There was no reason to lie, yes it’s a political witch hunt, and the only reason they went after him is because of who he was, but he knew that.
That’s another reason why I am disappointed in Biden.
The democratic party needs all of its leadership gone, people like Pelosi are keeping the party down at the expense of the American people.
Man, imagine if magats cared one inch when trump pardoned the straight up crooks Roger Stone et al. Imagine their reaction when he pardons everyone involved in the failed insurrection.
Do you think magats find us more decent and respectable when democrats “tsk tsk”?
Let Biden pardon his son, who gives a shit. It’s not like Trump is gonna go “well maybe I won’t be a dictator now” if Biden doesn’t.
His end is similar to Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
Held on too long to power and totally fucked their legacy.
the genocide enablement also didnt help.
As a powerful American I’m sure she did that at some point.
This is as wrong as two left shoes. Retroactive alt-history with the benefit of hindsight can solve anything, congratulations.
I’ll point out that identical “logic” can condemn Bernie Sanders for the Trump Presidency.
but it’s not retroactive. people called for rbg’s resignation at the time. a lot of the establishment pushed back, including herself. they pretended it would be bad for the court to do such things for political reasons.
democrats love to lose. they live to lose. they talk civility and pretend they’re above politics. the whole entire fucking thing is political I’m so sick of these people. politicians pretending they’re above politics is like a plumber who pretends they’re above plumbing. they’re useless.
He kept his word that nothing would fundamentally change.
Yep, Which was another way of saying nothing will fundamentally improve either. Where is that old “Mission accomplished” banner from George W’s stupid flight suit speech after desert storm. Biden can reuse that.
True, the CHIPS act, infrastructure bill, inflation reduction act, the largest investment into climate change in US history, allowing Medicare negotiation for the first time in history and persistent support of Ukraine against fledgling populace support, and an economy that’s the envy of the world, all amount to nothing huh.
God damn, what did you want?
True, the CHIPS act, infrastructure bill, inflation reduction act, the largest investment into climate change in US history
The government throwing money at corporations and calling it progress is not fundamental change.
allowing Medicare negotiation for the first time in history
For 10 drugs. And legislation that only benefits old people is also not fundamental change.
and persistent support of Ukraine against fledgling populace support
The US funding a proxy war (I support Ukraine, but let’s call this what it is) is not a fundamental change.
and an economy that’s the envy of the world
You know that when you toss in shit like this, it casts doubts on the rest of your comment, right?
God damn, what did you want?
A minimum wage increase. Rescheduled cannabis. The childcare and education provisions promised and then gleefully jettisoned from BBB. Legislation to protect democracy. Legislation to protect Roe. You know, the things Biden promised when he was running. The word he just said he kept.
He came in from Trump, and left with Trump.
The guy didn’t really want to change anything, did he?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/08/16/biden-oil-drilling-production/ :
As he campaigned for president in 2020, Joe Biden made a bold promise at a New Hampshire town hall, adding repetition for emphasis: “No more drilling on federal lands. Period. Period. Period. Period.” […] The Biden administration has now outpaced the Trump administration in approving permits for drilling on public lands, and the United States is producing more oil than any country ever has.
He said he was going to do what he said he would do.
Not that he wouldn’t do things he said he wouldn’t do.
Senile old man with a giant ego can’t remember what he’s said or what he’s done. A sad state
No Biden, your legacy will be that your ego was so big, you let your country fall into fascism rather than relinquish power. He never should have run for 2024, and the DNC should have had an actual primary.
Nothing else he did during his term will end up mattering nearly as much as how it ended.
“Funnily” enough, he probably could have won against Trump…
he had the lowest poll ratings of any incumbent on 80 years. Nixon had higher polls than Biden. He had zero chance of being reelected, even before he talked about beating medicare. Even against an idiot like Trump. Harris’s hole challenge was to climb out of the giant approval hole Biden had dug himself with his own stupidity.
Considering Harris’ campaign was basically “I’m Biden 2.0, except I’m gonna capitulate even harder to Republicans,” I really, really doubt that. Biden won the 2020 election entirely off a platform of “I’m not Donald Trump.” It was foolish and belittiling of the DNC to think they could pull the same trick four years later.
How do you figure? He was looking at potentially losing Minnesota, New Hampshire and Virginia when he dropped out, and showing no signs of being able to campaign his way out of that hole. One of the Harris campaign’s “gaffes” in the late run was when he went and called Trump supporters garbage (or at least, said words that sounded like that) after the Puerto Rico thing at MSG). Maybe 2020 Biden could have pulled it out, but 2024 Biden, both in the sense of his current mental and social capabilities and in the sense of the baggage he had as the incumbent president, didn’t have a lot going for him
Maybe I’m wrong, but I was thinking more in the sense that a lot of people stayed home instead of going out to vote for Harris.
Fair, I just think jumping to the conclusion that those folks would have come out to vote for Biden is a stretch when you look at how well his campaign was going. Worth remembering that Harris way outperformed Biden in terms of approval rating, which is a very imperfect metric, but the best one we have for guessing if folks would have come out to vote for Biden but stay home for Harris. In 2020, Biden was a challenger to an incumbent who was botching Covid from both a health and economy perspective. In 2024, he was an incumbent struggling to get out of the shadow of the global post-covid recession and some very unpopular decisions in foreign policy regarding the Middle East. Assuming he would have received 2020 levels of votes is not congruent with those facts
There were people googling “did Biden drop out” on election day. His name on the ballot might have been enough.
Because he hid in a closet for four years, so him dropping out and not campaigning any more wasn’t a noticable difference.
Seriously, he did a tiny fraction of public appearances, press conferences, anything, that any other president in the modern era.
The only times we really heard from when he was shuffling from a vehicle into a building, a building into a vehicle, or rare occurrences of one vehicle to another
That’s not an opinion, it’s quantifiable fact.
And as we’ve found out in the last week, that was because his age had been an issue for a long time, and he just couldn’t handle stuff like that.
LMAO what a pathetic shift of blame from voters who had absolutely no fucking clue what was going on for months.
Edit: I love it when I see someone has replied that I blocked. Makes my heart sing to know I’ve removed a dickhead from my existence ❤️
Whose job was it to get the message out?
🤣🤣🤣
If only Jill Stein had gotten a few more votes!
-linkerbaan/universalMonk simp-frauds everywhere
Did you vote Stein? I didn’t.
I know right? The most important idea is to avoid a democratic vote no matter what
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Green energy, EV investment, union empowerment (inb4), student debt relief marijuana pardons and likely rescheduling, infrastructure, drug price controls, Chips act, PACT act, non-competes banned (by FTC along ‘party lines’), pardoning people kicked out of military for being gay, supporting Ukraine, etc, etc.
People saying he didn’t do anything have their head in the sand.
Is this where we cue “but he didn’t do everything, everywhere, all at once”?
inb4
You lost me the moment you thought the strikes were only about sick days. Look up the unions’ demand and you’ll see that sick days were only one of many, and Biden still gave them less of those than they demanded.
Edit: Typo.
And then when the amazon strikers were being illegally arrested by the cops the other day Biden didnt do a damned thing.
The video says (effectively) “still working behind the scenes on the remaining issues”. Just because they reach an agreement on one item doesn’t mean they ignore all the other items.
That was two years (???) ago and he only has two weeks left in office. Unless by some miracle they can get these things during Trump’s term, it ain’t happening.
It doesn’t get any media coverage, so I have no idea what happened. But this notion that he just ordered them back to work and nothing happened is dead wrong.
No he waited for the news cycle to move on and abandoned them
If that was the case then they wouldn’t have even gotten the sick days presented in the video. But they did.
I think people are more upset about the net change. Marijuana pardons, but he also pardoned someone who embezzled millions, as well as Hunter (after saying he wouldn’t). He also showed no sympathy for union workers, like when he signed return to work for striking rail workers.
He also showed no sympathy for union workers
and likely rescheduling
Cannabis is still Schedule I.
Going to copy paste my comment from elsewhere
He started the process for medical marijuana legalization in 2022 via rescheduling to schedule 3 (Harris had called for full legalization, Biden only called for medical). It’s not as simple as a singular executive order when done without congressional action alone. The existing law makes the process very convoluted to reschedule. Lots of steps inbetween with people that have actively tried to slow it down
The formal rule for it ended up being fully proposed in May 2024, and the DEA has dragged it out and kept delaying it. The DEA managed to push the inital first hearing out until Dec 2nd and there keep being legal challenges from outside groups to push it back further and further
Dems also tried getting it through via legislation which is much faster. Passed in the house but it died in the senate
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3617
So why’d he fuck off until 2022 instead of starting it on Inauguration Day?
Because legislation was a much faster route so they started there. It took a bit before died in the senate
No, that’s bullshit. There is absolutely no excuse why he couldn’t have worked on both processes at the same time.
Maybe because there was a freaking pandemic to focus on. (Besides that the other guy said they did.)
Dems also tried getting it through via legislation which is much faster. Passed in the house but it died in the senate
Gee. How could that have happened in the Senate that Democrats controlled at the time?
The filibuster, which Biden did try to push for removal in certain areas. Joe Manchin and Sinema wouldn’t budge on it
He said he was in favor of removing the fillibuster only for two votes. For everything else he was flatly against eliminating it. He was all for keeping the filibuster in place when republicans regularly held the government hostage on budget bills to. Why did he take the republican side on that? No one knows. It makes no sense.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/21/biden-nothing-done-filibuster-abolished-500502
We gave Democrats a majority. We gave them the opportunity. They didn’t do what we elected them to do.
Joe Manchin is barely a democrat - though he’s probably the best you’d get out of West Virginia. In other parts of the world, he’d be a different party and he’s already left the Democratic party
Look, Biden could have just gone home, blamed Manchin, called it a day on so many issues but he didn’t. He actually tried to do what he could via executive action in many areas. He got zero credit for quite significant legislation and executive action
He managed to get one of the largest US climate bill through (Inflation Reduction Act), large infrastructure investments, etc.
Biden has many many faults. You don’t need to claim there’s ones in the areas where he did really try and got only shit on for it
Joe Manchin is barely a democrat
Joe Manchin’s obstruction is the last word people got from the Democratic Party on a host of issues.
Look, Biden could have just gone home, blamed Manchin, called it a day on so many issues but he didn’t.
Like he did with most of BBB, yes.
He got zero credit for quite significant legislation and executive action
That’s what happens when you spend decades being on the wrong side of issues, as Biden was with both cannabis and student loans. You don’t get credit for slapping a tiny store-brand bandaid over the problems you made a career out of creating and exacerbating. Especially when the tiny store-brand bandaid falls off.
He managed to get one of the largest US climate bill through (Inflation Reduction Act)
Centrists really overestimate the popularity of that law. Sometimes they wait a whole other sentence before gloating about record oil production.
Biden has many many faults. You don’t need to claim there’s ones in the areas where he did really try and got only shit on for it
His other faults make me disinclined to carry water for him.
Because we didn’t elect enough of them. You’re really leaning on “we have a majority because West Virginia”?
Because we didn’t elect enough of them.
There are never enough. They killed the public option last time we gave them a supermajority.
Hello Mr Crab! That’s why I said likely! He told whatever agency to look at it and iirc they announced plans to reschedule it.
I also see someone else has given you a whole bunch of information on it.
Cannabis is still Schedule I.
And that’s why I said likely! Are you on repeat?
Well, at least you’ve moved on for your previous position that Biden had rescheduled cannabis. Because you knew every last time you repeated it that it was a fucking lie.
Cannabis is still Schedule I, where you and Crime Bill Biden love it.
And that’s why I said likely!
For anyone wondering, months ago I said that Biden rescheduled marijuana. I said you can say that I was a little ahead of the ball on that. But Mr Crab got suuuppeeerrr mad, yelling and screaming at me for months, and still going! I think he’s at 4 months now! You’d think that lack of rescheduling raped and killed his mother or something.
where you … love it.
Ah and we have your strawman! Still can’t break that AND operator huh! For anyone wondering, Mr Crab is intent on calling people centrists.
And that’s why I said likely!
Because you expect people who know better to buy that cannabis is “likely” to be rescheduled in the next month? Come on dude.
Biden didn’t reschedule cannabis. It’s still Schedule I. Where it will remain until the end of his term. Where he always intended it to stay.
He did not, as you asserted, reschedule it. That was a lie. You didn’t “get a little bit ahead of the ball.” That ball ain’t moving and it was never going to. It was just a lie. That’s all it ever was and all it will ever be. You. Lied.
Still can’t break that AND operator huh!
I’m not sure why you think this makes any more sense than last time.
Anyway, I’m out. You’re just trying to provoke a slapfight.
EDIT: They always keep trying when you say you’re leaving. Now he’s whining about downvotes and making conspiracy allegations.
Oh word, is marijuana legalized Joe?
He never said he would legalize marijuana. He can’t do that, wrong branch. He did say he would pursue decriminalization of it, which he did pursue Iike the other comment said about trying to get it rescheduled. As of January 2022 there were 0 people in federal prisons for charges solely based upon possession of marijuana. (He pardoned a number to get them out)
If you want it legalized, look at the legislative branch.
Of course it isn’t. But centrists will lie and say it is.
He started the process for medical marijuana legalization in 2022 via rescheduling to schedule 3 (Harris had called for full legalization, Biden only called for medical). It’s not as simple as a singular executive order when done without congressional action alone. The existing law makes the process very convoluted to reschedule. Lots of steps inbetween with people that have actively tried to slow it down
The formal rule for it ended up being fully proposed in May 2024, and the DEA has dragged it out and kept delaying it. The DEA managed to push the inital first hearing out until Dec 2nd and there keep being legal challenges from outside groups to push it back further and further
Gee, a savvy career politician like Biden should have known they would have done that and accounted for it.
Oh wait. He did. That’s why he did it so late. So it wouldn’t happen.
Or he tried getting through via legislation because he knew that’d be much faster, but only once he knew he didn’t have the votes for it, he then pivoted to the slower executive action
There was a bill passed in 2022 in the house to do exactly that which ran into roadblocks in the senate
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3617
There was a bill passed in 2022 in the house to do exactly that which ran into roadblocks in the senate
Funny how that always happens on things Democrats never had any intention of ever doing.
Biden was the best president of my lifetime. Not really close.
What bleak times we inhabit.
I hope you think biden being the least stinky of a bunch of piles of shit doesn’t mean he’s good cx
I think our pile of shit issue is less due to the Dem presidents and more about our balance in Congress.
I think both Biden and Obama wanted to lower wealth inequality. But those funding congressional campaigns absolutely do not.
It’s very much both. Across the board, dem presidents hardly do anything to oppose republicans or follow through on campaign promises
Well, yeah, kinda is; but trump did that with the 2018 farm bill.
If by kinda you mean “not” then sure
idk he certainly did some decent stuff, and tried to do even more while being blocked by the other branches, but he broke his word several times.
I’ll miss the boring politics as we faceplant back into potus orange haired toadus
It’s been fine waking up every day simply concerned about the economy and people experiencing terrible things from afar, soon my morning concerns will include our local immigrants, a christofacist state, political retribution against some of the few politicians with some integrity, a further broken judicial system, broken education, banned abortions, broken social security, further broken health insurance. Ugh
Spare a thought for the persecuted trans people. We need to actively defend the minorities the fascists pick on.
frankly Im more concerned about muslim americans and Palestinians than I am about trans rights.
OK, but trans rights are a serious issue too. I don’t see that we have to rank who’s more important here. Everyone deserves basic human rights.
and tried to do even more while being blocked by the other branches,
Joe ran the primary saying he alone could get the party platform past a republican majority Senate…
That was literally his main stump point.
After the GA runoffs surprised everyone with a 50/50 split, he immediately said it was ignorant to believe a 50/50 Senate could accomplish anything
I’ll miss the boring politics
Lots of terrible shit happened under Biden, the difference is people dont pay attention compared to when it’s a Republican
Shocking you are raging about a non-republican
Ah yeah joes legacy failing to remove the bad policies he helped write and pass into legislation for 50 years. Dead Gaza Baby, Three Strikes Your Black, Drugs are only ok if your Rich or related to me - greatest hits.
Tell that to the railroad workers friendo
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: I kept my word—that when I said I was going to do something, I did it. My focus has always been on how to give ordinary people a shot. You’ve probably heard me say it before: my dad used to say, “Joey, a job is about a lot more than a paycheck. It’s about your dignity. It’s about respect. It’s about being able to look your kid in the eye and say, ‘It’s going to be okay,’ and mean it.” It’s about being able to be yourself and focusing on people who need some help. The vast majority of the American people, all they want is a chance—just a chance—and they’ll do fine.
Also Joe Biden months before pardoning his son for ‘any and all crimes’ committed over more than a decade:
No one is above the law!
But there’s a hell of a lot more Biden promised and never even tried.
Hell, he said the only way he wouldn’t run in 2024 was if “the Lord almighty himself” told him to, then he dropped out
Biden may have started 2020 with a few scraps of dignity left, but it’s all gone by now and he probably doesn’t even know. Geriatric politicians like him Pelosi probably honestly think we all love them.
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