This is going to be fun watching over the next four years. LOL. You just gotta laugh.
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They complain so much even when they have exactly what they claim they wanted. They wanted raw milk, they got it. But somehow all the non-raw milk drinkers are “ruining” something for them? Weird.
I grew up on a dairy farm and milked cows every day. We never bought “store” milk to drink. It always came from the tank every morning. We also made and ate foods that would cause you urbanites blanch and faint if you only knew, (I miss the home made blood sausage and canned beef my Grandmothers made). It’s not a death sentence like many of you seem to think. But, for commercial store bought milk, it IS imperative that the milk is pasteurized for consumer safety. That milk might be a week or two old before it reaches your refrigerator in the Big City/Suburbs/Gentrified neighborhood.
I doubt if drinking raw milk will become common place amongst magahats. It tastes NOTHING like what they or you are used to. It’s a whole different thing. And the vast majority of you would hate the taste of it and refuse to drink it. And the first time someone gets the shits from drinking it, they will try and sue the dairy they bought the milk from. And that won’t end well.
In Europe they seem to not have the same fear/issues with the sale or consumption of “raw dairy” that we do here in the US. Perhaps they are smarter about such things.
Maybe we can speed the process up by convincing them to eat raw chicken, too.
Darwin award 👍
Combined with H5N1… thy won’t be missed.
I for one welcome the new natural selection process. Can we do more of these?
“only eat mushrooms with redcaps for a week to detox your body” “building up infection immunity by sitting in an ice bath of shit”
IdiotsAt least with this one they’re only killing themselves and their own kids.
No annon! That’s eugenics!
It’s only eugenics if it’s done to a population. If they do it to themselves it’s natural selection.
If they do it to their kids it’s
murdernot being infected with the woke mind virus
It’s obvious why they’re suddenly obsessed with Raw Milk. It’s the same reason they were suddenly Anti-Vax, anti-Mask, and anti-plague-control.
Democrats said a thing, Republicans immediately reply with the opposite.
Democrats said Vaccines prevent disease, Republicans declared vaccines are poison. Democrats said wearing a mask can reduce the transmission of airborne pathogens, Republicans said masks will kill you and are illegal now. Democrats said “Don’t drink raw milk, it can transmit deadly diseases.” Republicans declare “You can take the raw milk from my cold dead hands.”
I honestly expect that if Democrats released a PSA against jumping off cliffs onto jagged rocks, because the fall could be dangerous, Republicans would immediately start taking picture standing on the edges of cliffs with the caption of “Don’t tell me what to do.”
You forgot the one about gas stoves in homes.
To be fair, there are so many examples of this lately, it’s impossible to keep track of them all.
Humans are famously garbage at comprehending statistics, and most Darwin Award winning conservative behaviors are born of it.
Take any mundane thing that was part of a status quo of a previous era in recent memory. Anything at all. Research comes out suggesting that thing has a small, but non-negligible risk to be quite harmful. So we collectively shift to a new behavior that tries to eliminate the risk. A shift that, in most sane and civil peoples’ opinions, is so unobtrusively small that any theoretical benefit we’re trading away is probably well worth the risk elimination.
But oh, a certain group of people will bitch and moan and scream and piss all over themselves in rage over how you dared to take away something so integral to their culture and lifestyle! The risk aversion is never worth the vain fringe benefit of whatever perceived quality was lost because the risk is completely invisible until it actually hits them personally.
Milk used to taste so great! God’s gift to the world! Then we all started boiling it and now it tastes worse! And for what? Because a couple of weak-bodied cosmic lottery losers were getting a few tummy aches? The vast majority of us are all suffering over nothing! Life was so much better when we weren’t all scared of things that won’t happen! We did it for millennia and we turned out just fine!
Then you point out all the people actually getting hospitalized from pathogens in raw milk, the very thing we were trying to avoid in the first place, and if they even believe you at all they simply consider it an acceptable price to pay. Better to live in a rich and interesting society where you’re free to risk harming yourself and others than a milquetoast one where imperceptible threats have been preemptively eliminated at great cost.
And then they turn around and work to ban books that mention trans people or ban porn websites to save the children or some other dumb shit.
Yeah back in the 2000s my permaculture/crunchy granola/woo woo/socially conservative/Catholic friend liked raw milk because of the health benefits, live cultures, etc., and believed that it was worth the risk that someone, somewhere, might get sick. But he’d be ok though because he knew and trusted His Farm.
I didn’t agree with him but I was tempted.
Imo if something can’t be regulated to within acceptable risk, it’s probably too dangerous.
That’s why Alex Honnold can go free solo a cliff because he’s only risking himself and his family’s future without him, but selling raw milk puts a lot more people at risk.
Imagine being so vapid that the extent of your understanding of the world boils down to just being contrarian.
It’s much easier than thinking.
Don’t get involved with people who enthusiastically shit on others’ ideas, while having none of their own. Can’t count how many times I’ve countered a complaint with “Ok, what would you do?” only to be met with those empty eyes that tell you there’s nothing happening behind them.
Some people just think conversation is defined as bitching.
I feel like most of the time they don’t even know the actual implications of what they’re saying, but are simply repeating the thing that they heard on the radio or Fox News. All they know is that the Democrats don’t like whatever it is, and that’s all that matters to them.
I mean, we could at least try releasing that PSA.
Maybe take baby steps first, like “you should never cross a street with heavy traffic”, “looking down the barrel of your gun is too dangerous” and “eating poop is nasty”
They think raw milk is natural, but would they still feel that way if they knew how selectively bred all dairy cows are at this point? The DNA of the dairy cow is where the milk manufacturing pipeline begins. We didn’t select for sanitary milk from the udder because we knew it could be pasturized later in the pipeline.
These people fundamentally don’t understand nature. We had cows for 8,000 years or so, we existed at least x200 that. So it’s 0.5% of our existance which means it’s a relatively new technology. Even if you appeal to naturalism here it makes absolute no sense.
We should have a weekly celebration where conservatives drink raw milk together. Just guzzle it all down you idiots.
I hear it’s tastier with horse dewormer.
As someone who stopped drinking raw milk as soon as I became aware of the bird flu issue they have whatever happens to them coming. They’re incredibly goddamn stupid.
I just like non homogenized milk, it’s hard to find pasteurized. Nothing worth dying over ffs.
Your user name is perfect for this comment.
There might be one or two far leftists here. Seriously curious, does anyone here think drinking raw cow’s milk is a good idea? Why?
I grew up drinking raw milk because we were milking 50 head of cows every day. Why make a 50 mile round trip to buy something we 500 gallons of right there in the yard. No one died or even got sick from it. Is it better for you? I don’t know or care. It’s what we had and the price was right. And it’s VERY unlikely any of you would actually want to drink it. And this includes the magahats also. It tastes nothing like the stripped down and flash pasteurized milk you are used to.
That said, for the commercial milk you buy and drink, it’s an absolute must to pasteurize the milk. It’s going to take a week for that milk to get from the dairy to your refrigerator and you expect it last another week or two. And so food safety demands it.
In any case, it’s not illegal to drink raw milk. You just can’t sell it to other individuals. If you want raw milk all you need do is to simply get your own cow and milk it. Then you can drink it all you want.
Tastes better. Probiotic, so can be healthier. Risk is very low of contamination, low enough that the mandate for pasteurized milk was kinda overblown, but technically safer.
I find the posturing the funniest. Conservatives trying to act tough by drinking raw milk is hilariously tame. It’s like being proud of not wearing sun screen when mowing the lawn. Like, that’s arguably fine either way, but sunscreen is a little safer but…why would you brag about that?
Probiotic, so can be healthier
Objectively not true. Zero actual evidence to support that. Also probiotic in itself is not a real thing and the only scientifically probiotic thing is fiber, any fiber because unsurprisingly to care for your bacteria you… need to feed and protect them not introduce more fuckboy dudes coming in trying to fuck shit up lol.
I think the foothold thought was that pasteurization destroys more than just bacteria, and milk might be healthier and/or tastier without having been changed by that process. Of course taste is largely culturally acquired - example A being Germans and UHT milk - but lots of people fancy themselves taste-o-philes.
Then the mistrust of “them” kicked in, and if “they” said the risk of pathogenic bacteria far outweighed any marginal health benefit, the “truth” must be the opposite.
It’s easier too if you’re the one milking, with the exception that pasteurization also extends shelf life
I feel like it used to be a super far left thing but the spectrum is a horseshoe as I’m sure you know. I also think it comes a bit from the prepper community which tends to be “libertarian”
Because our ancestors did it and they were strong Chads.
I think it was originally a “do we really need the government to mandate this” when they were appealing to the idea of like, a small family farm with people idyllically milking a single cow into a bucket. Then that idea morphed into an actual advocacy of drinking it when it got combined with the sort of “crunchy” “paleo” pseudoscience “health nut” movements.
“Louis Pasteur was a fascist in line with the new world order!” -Big D
They richly deserve tuberculosis. Too bad it’ll also afflict innocent people.
I hear the “deep state” wants to stop you from eating rotting food. You’re not going to let a bunch of scientists and health department officials tell you what to eat, are you?
/s just in case.
It’s just a different kind of cheese! Cabbage cheese, lettuce cheese, raw ground beef cheese. A bunch of libs ain’t gonna tell me what’s good for me. I’ve got Jesus in my court!
Okay so they’re not getting vaccinated and now they’re guzzling unpasteurised milk whilst cattle all over the US are dying of this latest bird flu?
I’m starting to think this right-wing shift might sort itself out
(Before anyone says, I know this is very bad for avoiding another pandemic which won’t care about how you vote)
That’s what people said during Covid. The strongest dumbs still survived.
No, we made the mistake of doing everything thing we could to make them get vaccinated.
Next time we know better.
New ad campaign:
“You survived COVID, even though the liberals tried to get you to vaccinate. You haven’t vaccinated to this day because you have an immune system. You’re conservative and strong. So when the liberals try again with bird flu, monkey pox, or whatever animal disease they come up with next, just tell them, ‘No thank you.’” Make sure the video playing along with the words shows strong manly men - white, of course - with rugged good looks, wearing outdoorsy clothes, doing manly stuff. Guaranteed to convince a bunch of insecure conservative douchebags not to vaccinate. Again.
Waaay too many words. Keep it simple.
Drink America Milk Agian!
Drink American Milk Now - Dairy US Milk Best
The D.A.M.N. - D.U.M.B. movement.
Brilliant
Keep the typo. Shows you didn’t do no book learnin’
let those children be unvaccinated then you won’t have to worry about them in the future either
That’s because the death rate for these sorts of problems is very low and at best is a very weak evolutionary pressure which won’t yield results for many generations. Additionally, the heritability of medical stupidity is very questionable.
And millions of “smarts” were so “smart” that they decided they didn’t need to vote again after 2020, and as a result, the “dumbs” are in power.
So who’s really dumb, here?
You don’t really need the bird flu in that mix, even. Pasteurization was a huge public health win.
What next, fridges are woke nanny state inventions and real red-blooded Americans store all their food in room temperature, especially their raw milk and meat?
To be fair since Pasteur we have made enormous progress in refrigeration and supply lines, so if the cow is healthy, and the raw milk is fresh, you should be fine. The main issue is that you should treat the milk in your fridge like something that spoils quickly (like fish), rather than something that can stay in the fridge safely for a week or two. Of course if the cow is sick none of this applies, so it has to come from a trusted source.
TLDR; raw milk can be okay if you are taking far more precautions than you normally would with milk.
Nah, fridges are convenient. That’s what makes the beer taste good!
There is a definite interest in learning older preservation techniques. I’m not sure how it lines up with political beliefs, though. For any that do, the big trick was salt - lots of salt. If they are above a certain age, it’s likely to do some damage based on the rest of our modern lifestyle.
Well I am progressive as fuck politically and somewhat crunchy lifestyle -wise. Garden, ferment things, have made bread exclusively from sourdough for about 15 years now, really enjoy fermented foods like kimchi and pickles and sauerkraut.
The other fermenter in our family is the literal racist uncle, he makes incredible homemade foods, raised me a turkey for Thanksgiving one year, even.
Both of us came to it from a culinary background, not a political one, a way to get good food. I don’t think it maps well, but there is certainly a subset of crunchy lifestyle people who started out progressive and were coopted by the right wing.
There are some more ways, usually involving fermentation. Us arctic types know some methods. But I get the impression rakfisk, lutefisk, hákarl, surströmming and kiviak would have caught on as exports by now if they were actually something humans in general were interested in eating, rather than the descendants of very specific kinds of desperate people.
[…]would have caught on as exports by now if they were actually something humans in general were interested in eating, rather than the descendants of very specific kinds of desperate people.
That’s the most eloquent thing I’ve read this week.
very specific kinds of desperate people
Me who honestly enjoyed surströmming…
Nothing to be ashamed about! There’s lots of stuff around the world that some people love but the majority shy away from. All the rest of us can ask is that you enjoy it responsibly and don’t bother other people with the smell. :)
It is an acquired taste for some
Good tasting beer makes you gay, fridges are woke devil’s spawn!
Stoves are convenient too, and they went after them for a month.
Food preservation lines up very well with conservative and libertarian plans. I even know if your number of Democrats that enjoy preserving food. Dehydrating, canning, pickling or all cheap and easy. The more extremes in conservative and libertarian also seemed to like freeze drying. I have to admit I kind of like freeze drying myself but the machine is so freaking expensive and then it consumes so much power, you can literally buy commercially freeze dried food cheaper than you can make it yourself and that does not get better at any reasonable home scale.
Not using dented / bulging cans is a conspiracy.
Call it evolution in action.
We need to tell them about the health benefits of Jonestown Koolaid.
Darwinism goes hard when it benefits the left
EDIT: Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing
Adult humans should not be drinking milk in liquid form in any way.
If you mean biologically- the ones without lactose tolerance, sure. The ones with lactose tolerance evolved to do so.
Morally is a different story, although even there, I don’t really see a problem with a subsistence farmer living off of cow and goat’s milk. Factory dairy farming is another issue.
Even without lactose tolerance, mankind found a way to keep drinking milk. I really want to experiment mongolian kumis/airag someday
I was just listening to the amazing Fall of Civilizations podcast’s epic 6 hour and 45 minute episode on the Mongols and it comes up multiple times.
I only drink my milk in a solid state
I too enjoy cheese
Average lactose intolerant L
“Why Tommy, what have you been reading?”
I use milk so infrequently that I get the powdered milk and mix up however much I need when I’m cooking.
