• Flax_vert@feddit.uk
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    And then they all died for their faith, bar John who was imprisoned for life, and not once renounced it to save themselves.

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        American Christo fascists trying to find the differences between the two pictures.

        they’re the same picture meme

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        Pretty low to liken the Apostles to terrorists. The difference is that they created the story and witnessed it. The 9/11 terrorists believed Mohammed’s lie.

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            There’s a huge difference between being killed by the authorities for showing disloyalty to an autocratic government and committing an act of terror by killing thousands of random people to make your point.

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            They had great conviction because they literally witnessed a man’s death and resurrection.

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          I partially agree. The apostles did create the story. Bunch of local legends and grifts. The only thing they witnessed were the bags of money Paul raised for them.

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      Paul only wrote half the letters attributed to him, John didn’t write John, Mark didn’t write Mark, Matthew didn’t write Matthew, and Luke didn’t write Luke. Of the 27 books of the NT only 8 are attributed correctly.

      As for their supposed dying for their faith we don’t actually know that. That is all later church traditions. It’s certainly possible since pretty much everyone got murdered who the Romans noticed but we don’t have evidence that it happened to them and there was plenty of reason to lie about it.