Getting upvotes on my main points.

And yet every reply is in disagreement and almost every follow-up reply made by you is heavily downvoted.

People who disagree with me right now are still in a backlash phase. They’ll either listen and think about it and accommodate the obvious truth that feminism isn’t a panacea for men’s issues because that’s just stupid.

Another argument that was never made. You’re the one who brought up feminism in the first place and nobody said feminism should solve men’s issues.

I’m not screaming, I’m lecturing.

The lecturers I remember would address questions instead of ignoring them.

The centering of women in a topic about men’s feelings being undermined by women centering their perspective is an obvious problem. It’s not that difficult to understand that if a woman were talking over a Black woman’s experience to talk about patriarchy instead of racism, that woman would be out of line.

So if it was another woman talking over a White woman’s experience that wouldn’t be out of line? It wouldn’t be a patriarchal issue if the person talking over had been a man instead of the woman?

The argument you’re refusing to address is that the gender does not matter when it comes to patriarchy.

Your patriarchy concept isn’t working. You can’t reach men by talking about the patriarchy. Joe Rogan doesn’t talk about the patriarchy. It’s not that complicated, you just hold to your ideology hoping that if everyone nods their heads and says “yes the patriarchy is to blame” the problem will get fixed. That’s stupid.

Just because the vast majority of people are unwilling to question their beliefs does not mean the concept is wrong. That’s like saying socialism is wrong because the large majority of society is taught “capitalism good, socialism bad” so they wouldn’t question capitalism and would view socialism as something bad.

And once again, nobody said if everyone agree patriarchy is to blame that would solve the problem. It wouldn’t, but it would at least be a step in the right direction because people would at least acknowledge there’s a problem.

Anyway. I’m done with your comments. As I said in the very first comment, you’re not here to listen. You just want to get on a soapbox and scream about your deeply rooted personal beliefs you refuse to question. I feel I’ve made my points about how you don’t listen and your points are nonsense and I really have no desire to talk to you because you won’t actually address the core arguments anyone is making. You’ll just pile on irrelevant information to try and shift the discussion to something adjacent and it’s just not worth the effort.