… like, even in your defense of Biden, he only gave some of a shit. Not even a full one.

Joking aside, I think you need to think long and hard as to why you can’t just say “He was great president.”

I think you need to read the rest of my sentence, the part that you cut off when you quoted it. He raised wages, for workers at the very bottom end of the American working person scale, by 30+%. Inflation that wasn’t his fault ate up about 20% of that. But, it was a pretty big fucking deal. I’m tepid about saying “he was a great president” because I would rather have Bernie Sanders, or maybe someone who wouldn’t be so enthusiastic about arming Israel, but that doesn’t mean I’m committed to pretending that he did nothing at all for the working people in this country, or that the bar is on the floor.

Or rather, better analogy, the bar was in the damn basement, and he raised it up to the top few steps of the stairs. That’s definitely not enough, but it’s also a hell of a lot more than nothing.

Where is that in your link? Is that your jobs an unemployment sections?

It’s not in my link. I just grabbed something that seemed to give a pretty balanced picture. They only talk about wages in qualitative terms. Here, this talks about it in terms of numbers:

https://www.epi.org/publication/swa-wages-2023/

That 13.2% real wage growth is about 34% un-adjusted wage growth, on top of about 20% cumulative inflation. Something along those lines.

Verdant Banana’s not throwing Biden under the bus though.

Yes he is. “horseshit” “Democrats never have anything to show at the end of the day”.

I’m actually not trying to be the “rah rah Biden” guy. I just keep finding myself in that role, because the truth is different from what people like to say a lot of the time, and that’s irritating to me. Sorry if it is confusing to you that I am neither saying “Biden’s great on everything!” or “Biden’s terrible on everything!” like I’m employed for one side or another. The election’s over, anyway. It’s just residual pissed-off-ness from seeing people spouting off a bunch of emotionally satisfying untruth-stuff about how the only guy in the last 40 years who actually wandered into our robber-baron governmental system and somehow managed to move the needle back a little bit in the right direction is a huge piece of shit.