• The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.netEnglish
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    3 个月前

    And you keep giving me nothing concrete. It doesn’t matter what they say if what they do is the same. Gaza was already being stripped of Palestinians. You still have not made it clear how this is actually worse for Palestinians.

    • Eatspancakes84@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 个月前

      You ask for a concrete action when we are no more than 16 days in. Ok let’s ignore that and pretend you are acting in good faith.

      1. Weapon shipments that had been blocked have been released
      2. After the Gaza ceasefire Israel has opened an offensive on the Westbank
      3. Words of a US president have a meaning if they are not directly felt on the ground. For instance, Trump has made it clear today that he will not oppose an ethnic cleansing operation in Gaza (and likely the same for the Westbank).

      Let me ask you a question in return. It is my impression that you suffer from confirmation bias where you sat out the election because both sides were equally bad. I therefore think it would be good for you if you set a threshold. At what point will you accept that Trump is really worse than Kamala would have been?

      • The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.netEnglish
        1·
        3 个月前

        1. And plenty more were sent by Dems over the years.

        2. I’ve already linked to these in this thread, but it’s depressing that anyone is making that argument anyway:

        July 2023

        Also, wiki page on the occupation of the West Bank

        1. As I said in another comment: two people stomp on you; one calls you a slur, the other says they want the violence to end, but neither stops stomping on you. What does it matter what they say?

        And you have a very bad impression. As I have mentioned several times:

        I’m not American (therefore I can’t “sit out the election”); I have made it clear several times that Trump is much worse than Kamala in everyway except Palestine; I never (and I encourage you to go through my Lemmy history if you don’t believe me) never told anyone to not vote for Kamala - in fact I once even said she might be the most left leaning American president in a long time; and I have also argued with a lot of Trumpists online.

        So, to put it mildly, your impression of me is off.

        At what point will you accept that Trump is really worse than Kamala would have been?

        For Palestine specifically? I’m not sure he can be. Would the Nazis have been better if instead of putting people in concentration camps they just shot them in the streets, bombed them, and starved them? If you believe so, then you could make an argument that concentration camps would be the threshold; but personally I’m not convinced there is much of a difference.