Summary
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, in a private meeting inadvertently broadcast via a hot mic, warned that Donald Trump is seriously considering annexing Canada to secure its critical mineral resources.
Speaking to business and labor leaders, Trudeau claimed Trump’s administration is keenly aware of Canada’s resource wealth and sees annexation as a means to control it.
The comments, cut off after staff realized they were audible, underscore growing economic and political tensions.
He also stressed the need to diversify trade, noting, “Geography means we’re always going to both benefit and be challenged by trade with the United States.”
Lol that would probably look like the Winter War where Finns were vastly outnumbered but still won because they know how to survive the winter. I hope the americans wear body cams when they invade. It will be very satisfying to watch the Rocky Mountains literally kill them man vs nature style.
And Canadians are so fucking brutal historically in war. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0230d9mp5WY
Also not sure if relevant but Canadian true crime seems to be way more often gory and needlessly violent compared to your typical run of the mill murder stories.
Australians are pissed. We have been right with the yanks in “America 1st” for decades and we get looked over again
Trump must realise Canada one of the founding members of Nato and an attack on one is an attack on all.
Im not Canadian I should add but yeah this kind of thing really will not go well for anyone same goes for Greenland.
Our dedicated boys keep the peace in newly annexed Canada
A blue state with the population of texas, lets see how that affects congress.
Monkey Paw: Supreme court rules that the federal government get to draw the maps. You get a totally gerrymandered State of Canada, Magats remain in power forever.
Ontario gets one congressional district, Alberta gets like 10
Canada will be treated like Puerto Rico to ensure this doesn’t happen…
We really got 51 states before GTA 6.
We really got a 51st state before Puerto Rico is a state.
Fuck.
Fuck.
Okay not to downplay the fucked up reality of this situation, but does it bother anyone else that the Orange Idiot thinks Canada should be just one State? And one hostile to him and his party at that, out of spite if nothing else.
i knoe Alberta is probably red, what about the other providences? Any Canadians want to chime in? What would the hypothetical blue/red breakdown be?
Our conservatives are left of your democrats. We don’t have any red.
PPC is our political party similar to republicans and they didn’t get any seats last election.
AB would join before ANSCHLUSS.
SK red.
ON swing state, it’s rust belt all over again.
Maritimes votes along with New England.
MB is dealing with mosquitoes.
BC blue.
NL swing but mostly blue.
PQ 3rd party, but generally very strong blue. I don’t see PQ annexation happening though. It’d sooner fight for independence from either.
You must be in the East if you think like this.
The BQ would change their slogan to “nous autres, on l’a l’affaire!”
I would kill and die in a war with Americans if they tried to force us into becoming Americans. I would rather die and take as many of you with me as possible than become an american
I like your fighting spirit. I look forward to calling you my countryman.
Guarantee I’d be sabotaging shit on this side to help you guys win. Every sensible American loves our Canadian neighbors and respects their sovereignty.
I’m American and I’d be 100% on your side, there is every reason to not be in the US, you don’t deserve our fate.
Minnesota will likely join you. And if you don’t know our state history, don’t fuck with Minnesota.
As as US citizens here i will join your side
Yeah I was gonna say let me cross over real quick. I’m American, so I’ll bring my own guns as long as you can provide some healthcare.
Violence in exchange for healthcare is celebrated by a lot of people.
And as an american I applaud you for it. This is the dumbest timeline.
How would that even work. It’s an an entire country made up of provinces. We have our own provincial governments. Canada is fucking huge. How would they enter? The border spans the whole width of the continent. Do they even have a big enough military to even do that?
None of this even makes sense, it sounds like the biggest dumbest joke any president has ever came up with, besides building a wall along the opposite border, which may have started but never even finished, or turned out way too expensice to be realistic or something like that, what ever the fuck happened.
For Canada’s population they are a remarkable country, but even so, for Canada to win a war they don’t need to fight, they only need to walk backwards and wait for winter.
I’m an outsider.
Do you think the military will comply with an order to invade Canada? Usually the higher ups are pretty sane people (in the West).
They’ll just make up some “logistical difficulties” as an excuse to refuse the order.
Even if the higher ups somehow agree (which would be insane), the actual troops are the ground are 50% POC or minorities. I can’t imagine them going through this hatred by the whitehouse and still continuing to follow orders. There will be a break in chain of command at some point.
Also peep the military subreddit on Reddit they are talking about breaking chain a lot, whether they will it’s still to be tested but it’s definitely indication of where things lie.
Member when this was just a south park joke?
This quite a historic geopolitical paradigm shift. It’s been implicitly assumed that the two countries are forever allied out of mutual interest.
Thwre is never a permanent ally or permanent enemy in the context of countries and alliances.
USSR was an “ally” until the the axis lost, then immediately became an enemy overnight. Japan then went through the occupation and changed from an enemy into an "ally of the US.
China (ROC), was once an ally of the us, then CCP took over and became an enemy, then the “Opening Up and Economic reforms” happened and now the US and China are sort of “frienemies”, but now with trump’s tariffs, its enemies again.
Heck, the US revolted against UK, and now they are sort of allies all the way throught the world wars until now with trump’s isolationism.
There is no “allies” or “enemies”, just temporary co-operations and competitions
Trump is trying to speedrun the destruction of the US
Trump is using Putins playbook. Constantly threaten to annex your neighbors. Neighbors take those threats seriously and start to build up a standing army at the border. Convince populous that the neighbors are threatening the nation and are preparing for an invasion. Yada yada yada. Start a “special military op“ and invade neighbor.
He is Putin’s pawn
Wrote up a summary months ago (with reputable sources!) and warned about Nazis too and was permabanned from Lemmy news and politics for it.
Idk man, you can tell people stuff, but it’s so hard for them to access what’s real right now. There’s a concerted online effort to suppress factual info.
I mean Trump has literally forced both Canada and Mexico to move a standing army in the thousands to the borders now, so I see he is not wasting time with this casus belli.
Ya know, even with all the apt comparisons to Hitler and Putin, one thing I didn’t have on my bingo card was him actually trying to expand US territory by invading and annexing other countries. I thought that was one big difference.
Everything else I could imagine is now in progress: Disregard/end of the Constitution and rule of law–check. Dismantling of democracy into an authoritarian dictatorship–check. Mass deportations and concentration camps–check. Full-on implementation of Project 2025–check. Blatant corruption, lawlessness and self-enrichment for trump family and oligarchs–check. Implementation of Christian Nationalist policies–check. Dismantling of federal agencies and beneficial aid programs–check (so far DOJ/FBI, USAID, Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, Dept of Education).
As yet unchecked, but only a matter of time (it’s only been 3 weeks!): dismantling of additional agencies and programs: SNAP, medicaid first, then social security, medicare, all the stuff they hate. Use of military against civilians, requirement to carry ID papers with proof of citizenship, sham elections, and more!
Unanticipated by me: Musk given free reign to dismantle whatever parts of the US government he feels like, and now invasion and annexation of other countries and territories!?! In the sights: Panama Canal zone, Greenland, Canada, and Gaza. Could this really happen?
Could this really happen?
No. Just like most of his agenda so far, he’s dead serious and wants to do it, but he keeps finding out he’s far too inept to pull it off.
Hitler was evil AF, but he was also smart and charismatic, and he knew how to fill a government with supervillains.
Maximum effort, trump might start amassing some military on the border. When that happens watch the other news for shit they’re trying to sneak by.
knew how to fill a government with supervillains
Isn’t that what’s happening right now?
Also one thing Hitler and his Nazi friends have over the Business v2.0 plotters: genuine combat experience. They may be shitty people, but they also got blooded. They were willing to kill and be killed.
A fair chunk of the military minorities that Trump has alienated are veterans, and more importantly, know they will die if he got his way. On the other paw, we got Proud Boys, ICE, and the Xitler Youth. That bunch, as a general rule, are cosplayers. I suspect this what it would look like if they went up against minority soldiers:
I hope you’re right. I fear you’re not.
He couldn’t even shut down USA aid. All he needed to do was have a semi-intelligent person walk into there and see what the consequences would be for shutting it down. He’s consistently just playing checkers on a chess board and having to roll every move back.
He’s going to piss a lot more people off and make a lot more problems but he does not have the competency in himself or his team to pull off an operation like that against an actual trained country.
Don’t get me wrong, he will eventually shut a bunch of very important shit down probably inadvertently.
Maybe we’ll lose a third of the population to an illness or something on his watch.
I’m a bit more worried overall that he’s now going to permanently be in power than anything. I don’t think the US has it in them too kick him to the curb, and I’m definitely not going to count on the military backing us in a coup.
But he did shut it down. The office was cordoned off, the flag and signage removed, administrative employees placed on leave and overseas employees ordered to return home. Leaving massive amounts of food and medicine to spoil on ships.
Yes, a judge has ordered a “pause” on the shutdown until a hearing takes place, but we haven’t seen them go back to work so far, since it’s Friday–we’ll see what happens Monday. Point is he’s going ahead and doing illegal things and daring someone to stop him. My concern is whether they’ll ignore court orders. Because it’s not like there’s a way to enforce them other than he chooses to comply.
He inadvertantly told us what Trump has explicitly told us?
“United States declares war on United States after unprovoked attack on NATO ally Canada”
I am hoping that it would be The Blue States, NATO, and Mexico dog-piling Vichy America. Behind the Bastards theory of “Fuck that guy.” at work.
Yo, this won’t be an annex. It will be an invasion if he really wants it, same with Greenland. You think Canada will just roll over? Imagine if fucking Mexico decided to take back Texas. (At this point, please do, I could use some new leadership here)
I’m so sorry Canadians, yall just up there doing your thing and these assholes just trying to fuck your shit up.
It just reminds me of being bullied at school when I was young. Same shit different day.
I’m in the GTA. I’m ready to die for my country. Are Americans ready to say the same when their president gives them the order?
Rest assured you do not want to fuck with us Canadians. We are deeply embedded in your country. You would see terrorism the likes of which you have only seen in your nightmares. 9/11 will seem like happier times.
Seriously as a Canadian I want them to try.
GTA
Greater Toronto Area? 🙅♂️❌️
Grand Theft Auto? 😄👌✅️
If y’all ask, our economically developed states will fight on your side. Just promise us you’ll adopt us afterwards. We’ll do it for Tim’s
As an Australian, I have no idea how my country would respond to this officially. The US alliance is basically our entire defence strategy, and we have fostered that by supporting the US in every conflict they’re involved in. On the other hand, we could never go against another Commonwealth nation. The cultural weight is too great.
Perhaps the best we could offer is assurance that any Canadian visitors (refugees) to Australia can probably overstay your visas for as long as necessary. For some reason we only care when immigrants arrive by boat. Just follow all the Aussies when they start leaving your ski fields.
No worries folks, any infiltration violence in resistance isn’t likely to be directed at random civilians.
A lot of vandalism, though. And some judicious sniping would be likely.
A lot of Americans would come fight right alongside you. People are pissed.
I’m in Minnesota, I’d take up arms against people trying to invade Canada. Fuck those fascists.
Let’s go Canada!
Fun, totally unrelated to absolutely anything fact:
Three of the top ten longest confirmed sniper kills were Canadian.
It’s basically our military specialization
Everywhere snipers are a thing, the best ones are always the ones that grew up hunting. There’s a lot of really wild areas with really big game in Canada, it makes sense that some people are going to be very good with a rifle and scope.
A lot of us grow up around long guns. Handguns are relatively rare.
You have my understanding and support. Canadians please take care of yourselves.
You had our back in Afghan/Iraq, you have brothers and sisters in the US that will help.
It will take the unity to sabotage any Nazi/maga plans.
Fuck yeah brother, I’m with you
I’m building explosive filled toques.
No need to invade. The US can just tamper with our elections enough to get people in power that’ll just roll over and give them everything
I don’t know who downvoted you, but whomever did go check out Danielle Smith in Alberta. She sure likes Trump, and Ford over in Ontario used Roger Stone as a campaign advisor.
Trump has created a problem for the Cons, though:
“The start of a tariff war with the United States is changing voters’ moods. It’s harder to talk about a broken Canada when there’s a growing sense of patriotism,” another Conservative source said.
Our Cons need bogeymen to rile up our Centrist voters. They rail about borderguards or evil carbon taxes (that are given back to the vast majority of Canadians) or whatever, only now we’re getting Nationalist Cons rising up, despite their favourite leader Harper being a vanguard of International Conservatism.
We have an absolute issue up here with our Con voters, (when Léger asked Canadians about the Biden-Trump match up in the fall of 2020, 41 per cent of Conservative voters sided with Trump.) and they are extremely susceptible to Russian propaganda:
From the recent polls I’ve been seeing, Trump has apparently reminded a lot of conservative voters that they are Canadian. When asked how we should respond to Trump’s tariffs, “equal retaliation” and “escalation” combined for like 80%.
This whole thing seems to have poked that button we have where we can watch a hockey game, see someone start a fistfight over a perceived slight, and consider that a perfectly reasonable response.
Yeah, a reminder to Canadians that our blueshirts (equivalent to brownshirts etc) were rounded up and interned during WW2. They got back to work somewhat right after because the country was still freakin racist, but it took until recently for actual fascism-with-Skippy to pop up again.
Currently, Trumps team is just trying to get something boiling so that if/when polievre gets in power, the situation can be “resolved” without bloodshed.
I’m definitely curious to see what happens in the polls when we find out who the Liberals choose. I don’t get the impression that people really trust Poilievre to handle Trump.
Canadians are not as pathetic as us Americans, who’ve been rolling over for 50 years.
They will fight.
