We never really needed it, it arose naturally when people began to question the nature of their reality and other people realized they can gain political power by giving them “answers”.
If you just take a tiny look at what is happening right now, I’d say humanity definitely needs it. Religion merely became powerless to help with it, but the need to make people behave properly definitely is there.
You behave properly by not being into religion. That’s kinda the point. Few cults aren’t too radical to be sensible (~all of Island, ~all of Christianity) in a modern world, or intentionally undermine societal structures around them to further their own goals (Mormons et all).
It was once a needed concept. Nowadays non-ecclesical structures exist to do this, and they get actively hampered/undermined by religious ones (see the christofascists in the US).
Mostly science, media, governments. We no longer need to talk about Gods to explain lightning or ask a priest instead of a doctor to help us with our cancer.
Of course, in days past that scientific alternative did not exist and we also had few ways to inform people about any such alternatives. So religions offered an explanation and while not a solution at least done hope and were really available.
We also have made huge laps in therapy and psychology so we no longer require a supposed higher being to pray to to manage our own fears and depressions.
Of course, everyone handles this differently. For some, it’s a useful tool, even if it is core is Santa Claus for adults, in a way. But it’s not required any more. We found alternatives, and in most cases with actual explanations and actual effects.
Santa Claus for adults is relevant when you consider that Saint Nicholas was a real person. There might have been a real person that inspired the bible, but to believe in the mythical version of them is like thinking Santa Claus is real because Saint Nicholas was real.
Theres a tiny handful of religions that dont seem too terrible. But all the Abrahamic religions, which encompasses most religious people, have some pretty huge and unhandled philosophical problems. If you try to dig into any issue in them you are labeled a bad, intolerant person.
A) religion is behind what’s happening right now. Evangelicals own the country and Project 2025’d it. The religious are genociding Gaza. Religion can suck a whole mess of dicks.
B) If people need an external daddy figure to make them be good, they aren’t good to begin with. And typically the religious are much worse people than agnostics or atheists, who seem to find it possible to find and rely on intrinsic understandings of good and bad.
C) Religion is not necessary for faith or belief. It’s just the human corruption and power consolidation of it.
We need action… no more words.
We need self and human respect no more than that.
I love a song by Metallica… Kil Em all
Sorry for that but its what i am feeling
What humanity needs, IMO, is to realize collectively and also teach our children that happiness, fulfillment, and yes morality are things that come from within. And they are of course strongly influenced by the people & relationships closest to us.
Religion teaches people look for an external source of morality and happiness just as much as capitalism does. Being religious or living under capitalism don’t necessarily prevent individuals from achieving self-actualization, but I certainly don’t think they make it easier for most. I say “most” because there’s a lot of variety in people, and there are undoubtedly some people who are wired to love just about anything you can think of, including running a business or leading a worship service.
Religion seems to me to be a preprocessed bundle of ideas. Where I think humanity goes wrong is our taboo around challenging those ideas one by one to try to improve humanity.
Ah yes, we have finally discovered the only human being that is immune from politics™ . If only we could all achieve the level of enlightenment that you have.
I agree with you however it sadly is a self perpetuating cycle fueled by those who look to gain and those who accept exploitation of the working class regardless of whether it is knowingly or unknowingly.
Organized Religon is a control mechanism that humanity no longer needs.
We never really needed it, it arose naturally when people began to question the nature of their reality and other people realized they can gain political power by giving them “answers”.
Religon was kind of a law enforcement system before governments could properly setup formal law enforcement.
It’s a way to make communities self police.
These days, organized religion is a dangerous tool sitting around for random con men to pick up and weild.
If you just take a tiny look at what is happening right now, I’d say humanity definitely needs it. Religion merely became powerless to help with it, but the need to make people behave properly definitely is there.
You behave properly by not being into religion. That’s kinda the point. Few cults aren’t too radical to be sensible (~all of Island, ~all of Christianity) in a modern world, or intentionally undermine societal structures around them to further their own goals (Mormons et all).
It was once a needed concept. Nowadays non-ecclesical structures exist to do this, and they get actively hampered/undermined by religious ones (see the christofascists in the US).
Genuinely I don’t know what structures those might be. What are you referring to?
Mostly science, media, governments. We no longer need to talk about Gods to explain lightning or ask a priest instead of a doctor to help us with our cancer.
Of course, in days past that scientific alternative did not exist and we also had few ways to inform people about any such alternatives. So religions offered an explanation and while not a solution at least done hope and were really available.
We also have made huge laps in therapy and psychology so we no longer require a supposed higher being to pray to to manage our own fears and depressions.
Of course, everyone handles this differently. For some, it’s a useful tool, even if it is core is Santa Claus for adults, in a way. But it’s not required any more. We found alternatives, and in most cases with actual explanations and actual effects.
Santa Claus for adults is relevant when you consider that Saint Nicholas was a real person. There might have been a real person that inspired the bible, but to believe in the mythical version of them is like thinking Santa Claus is real because Saint Nicholas was real.
Theres a tiny handful of religions that dont seem too terrible. But all the Abrahamic religions, which encompasses most religious people, have some pretty huge and unhandled philosophical problems. If you try to dig into any issue in them you are labeled a bad, intolerant person.
A) religion is behind what’s happening right now. Evangelicals own the country and Project 2025’d it. The religious are genociding Gaza. Religion can suck a whole mess of dicks.
B) If people need an external daddy figure to make them be good, they aren’t good to begin with. And typically the religious are much worse people than agnostics or atheists, who seem to find it possible to find and rely on intrinsic understandings of good and bad.
C) Religion is not necessary for faith or belief. It’s just the human corruption and power consolidation of it.
We need action… no more words. We need self and human respect no more than that. I love a song by Metallica… Kil Em all Sorry for that but its what i am feeling
What humanity needs, IMO, is to realize collectively and also teach our children that happiness, fulfillment, and yes morality are things that come from within. And they are of course strongly influenced by the people & relationships closest to us.
Religion teaches people look for an external source of morality and happiness just as much as capitalism does. Being religious or living under capitalism don’t necessarily prevent individuals from achieving self-actualization, but I certainly don’t think they make it easier for most. I say “most” because there’s a lot of variety in people, and there are undoubtedly some people who are wired to love just about anything you can think of, including running a business or leading a worship service.
Religion seems to me to be a preprocessed bundle of ideas. Where I think humanity goes wrong is our taboo around challenging those ideas one by one to try to improve humanity.
Monotheistic Religion is a step along the ladder of class struggle. 2 ish steps ago.
Never ever need
Yeah, religion is obsolete, I’m tellin’ yeah… for real this time. We have
FortranRust* now.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sVc8lkTfrk
Also, right-wing parties will lose all future elections because they are dying out of old age… for real this time.
And Gazans were living the best time of their life when the other side of the uniparty was in control… for real!
* I’m actually a Rust user 😄
Ah yes, we have finally discovered the only human being that is immune from politics™ . If only we could all achieve the level of enlightenment that you have.
✅ Shouldn’t need.
I agree with you however it sadly is a self perpetuating cycle fueled by those who look to gain and those who accept exploitation of the working class regardless of whether it is knowingly or unknowingly.