• @[email protected]
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    136 days ago

    My camera has a cover 😂😂😂 I hope you like your screens pitch black because it’s the only thing you will see

  • SwizzleStick
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    I’d honeytrap this with a software camera that just plays filth and shock sites on a loop :)

    • @[email protected]
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      The goal with software like windows is to eventualy take away all control. If you can run unaproved software, you can’t even join the teams call. Then you will see stuff like this.

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        I own a small USB stick that acts as a camera. But in reality it’s just a HDMI input on the other end. Now beat that with software

        • LostXOR
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          Just wait until webcams start cryptographically signing image frames to ensure their authenticity.

      • SwizzleStick
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        Years ago, I’d laugh at this.

        Yet it slowly becomes reality with every passing year. It’s bad enough that we’ve essentially lost pay-to-own in favour of subscription models for a lot of popular software.

        On our corp network, the amount of GPOs I’ve had to mangle together just to make Win11 usable is insane. The users are still going to have a fit in October.

      • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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        I feel that a faulty webcam driver that causes a kernel panic would work best. They turn your camera on and you drop from the call.

      • Nfamwap
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        All the laptops I have owned over the last 10 years have a mechanical shutter to cover the camera. None have been Dell.

          • @[email protected]
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            I believe they, and pretty much everyone else here, thought you were talking about the mechanical shutter that you have to manually slide over the lens.

            • @[email protected]
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              That’s not what mechanical means, but I can understand the confusion.

              Those are manual shutters. If it’s mechanical, unless you are using a very archaic definition or speaking in a different context it is capable of self movement in some form.

              Not that I’d be particularly surprised to find out product marketing on the question is all over the place.

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                  Yes, in this sense.

                  Clicking the mechanism converts the manual input to a mechanical or electrical output.

                  If you pushed the lead down entirely by hand it wouldn’t be a mechanical pencil, which is exactly why you pushing or flipping a plastic cover into place entirely with your own muscle power makes it a manual shutter.

                  When you type on a mechanical keyboard, what, precisely, do you think is happening? Are you literally outputting a letter by pressing your finger down? For that matter, what do you think a mechanical keyboard does?

                  Fucking Google it.

                  I do love having to explain basic terminology to a relatively well educated yet stupendously deaf audience.

                  Really restores my faith in humanity.

                  We’re not fucking cooked, and the mental infantilization of the population is not complete.

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                I’m a mechanical engineer, but what do I know. Just studied that shit for 5 years and worked as one for the past 13.

                But then again, I’m from Germany so maybe there is a language barrier between us somehow.

                We now know what you mean and you probably also know what the other person meant. All is well.

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                  https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mechanical

                  https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/manual

                  You’re welcome for the lesson on the finer semantic details of your secondary language.

                  Bonus terminology:

                  “Appeal to authority”: A logical fallacy in which it is claimed that a person’s expertise in a field is proof of a claim itself. This is a disputed fallacy, as there are indeed certain instances where it might applicable, such as a mechanical engineer describing the workings of mechanical systems, but is always a fallacy when they attempt to use their expertise in one field as proof in another.

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                  You used to be able to get a mecha for a five cents. Gimme a mecha for a nickel, we’d say. We didn’t have actual mecha (because of the war) so we used jam jar lids instead. Now one time Puddinhead, his name was Gerald Brown but everyone called him puddinhead because he had this hat that looked like a pudding cup. I don’t know where he found it. Maybe he made it, which, in retrospect, was really neat. We were a little too hard on old Puddinhead. Anyway…

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      You’d get a pious, stating that someone paid 1.99 to turn your camera an. For just 5.99 you can make sure it stays off.

      This could also be implemented as a bidding war like eBay.

  • @[email protected]
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    Yknow one great thing that costs about 1.99 (one time cost)?

    Those little plastic slidy bits that cover up the laptop webcam and mic.

    • @[email protected]
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      177 days ago

      It’s weird that people used to be concerened with covering their laptop camera, but people don’t care about their phone camera.

      • cartoon meme dog
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        i really miss pop-up cameras on phones.

        good peace of mind knowing the fucker is tucked away inside.

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          They can probably guess your shoe size and leg length using the accelerometer. Also if you’re right or left handed.

          • Carl
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            You can’t guess correctly someone’s shoe size and leg length using an accelerometer. There are factors that drastically change the results.

            • Dale'sDeadBug
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              Samsung health can track some crazy metrics from just the Galaxy watch. I wouldn’t be surprised what else they can accurately estimate. Pic of the data from a recent run.

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              Enough data over time I bet you could. Get a couple drop recordings, arm swing, common heights of beds/desks/chairs, you could find it.

              Would it be automated or easy? Hell no. But you can do it. We’ve discovered more with less

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                Everyone’s bodies are all different in unique ways. Also some might have a limp, or crutches, prosthetics, different size feet, wider feet, extremely small feet(while being tall). There would never be enough data. Unless you were there in person measuring.

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                  Well, you have angle of tge thigh and speed and time between strides, giving us stride length assuming their phone is in their pocket, which would be easy to tell. Then you have foot on floor over time and speed, which would give you appoximate shoe length depending on their foot fall. But you could guess that based on axis bounce/force. You could probably guess their weight and gender too.

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      Some laptops come with that built in, or you could use some scotch tape and a little square of paper for free

  • YTG123
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    Fortunately, browsers have safeguards against this sort of thing (activating the camera without user interaction)

    …right?

    • @[email protected]
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      67 days ago

      Just last week we found a bug in our system in that if an user accepts a meet on pc while also having the phone app open, the meet is opened in both devices, - that alone could end very badly.

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      Zuck always has a piece of tape over his camera when you see his laptop. That’s all you need to know.

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          Granted he is a higher profile target but he likely has lots of cyber security people going over everything on that machine with a fine tooth comb. And he still has a piece of tape over the camera.

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        I saw probably the same photo as you! The article wasn’t even about that, we just noticed it in the photo. I immediately went and taped over my camera.

    • @[email protected]
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      157 days ago

      Both my work laptop and personal laptop have mechanical shutters that can only be opened by hand.

      They’re both Thinkpads.

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            I have both a t14 g1 and g3. With each generation, the keyboard gets more trash. I even tested out my friend’s new recent generation x1 carbon yoga and the keyboard was also bad. Lower travel and didn’t feel as solid.

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        Most Dell latitudes and precisions also have a physical shutter.

        I love that feature. It makes me more comfortable around the computer because no one can look at me without my consent.

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            Which series how long ago?

            I doubt the 3000 series has them because they suck, but all the 5000 series laptops I have used have had a shutter. Granted, I’m only really referring to laptops that released within the last 7 years or so.

            I currently have a latitude 5430 and a brand new precision 3490 and they both have a shutter, but that’s not too surprising considering that they look identical to each other.

            • @[email protected]
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              Makes sense. I had a E6440, E7470, and 7490. The E6440 was a beast of a machine, and the E7470 fell off a 14 foot ladder and still survived, despite missing a corner… The NVMe drive was barely holding on 😅

    • @zipzoopaboop
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      In my experience people click accept without reading or thinking, and usually remember this setting which they may have already done previously.

      In any case all my cameras have physical blockers

  • @[email protected]
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    Is this legit? Brave’s AI summary claims that Teams indeed gives this option to the host. However, it points to a Teams documentation page that does not mention such feature.

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        Holy shit.

        He’s at -22 right now, and you at +41.

        He obviously isn’t trusting the AI, he’s asking here to verify it since he couldn’t find any first-hand information to contradict it.

        Lemmy is already getting to be more fucking toxic than reddit. JFC.

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          Lemmy is better than Reddit in every way. This means the platform itself is better, but it also uplifts all users. This leads to better posts, better comments and better voting behavior. It also enhances the innate abilities of Lemmy users to be toxic as hell.

          So what I’m trying to say is suck it bitch.

        • @[email protected]
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          Arguably people don’t like the USE of AI regardless of whether the user thinks it’s trustworthy.

          • @[email protected]
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            Yeah, it’s a scary word.

            I get the hate for it, especially around resource use, and it’s overuse everywhere. But it’s still the early days and it’s certainly going to evolve. I imagine if people were as environmentally conscious in the 60s, they’d be up in arms about rooms full of hot glowing tubes doing arithmetic. Eventually, though, they got to be far less resource intensive.

            Also the AI response is default behavior in Brave search…and many other searches. For me, Brave has probably been the best of the bunch, but that’s not exactly a high bar.

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              It’s also the pure insistent annoyance of a tool being inserted into everything we use in daily life which spits misinformation, plagerizes real human work, and is being pushed by big tech to such a degree for no apparent reason. Furthermore it’s intent, from tech’s point of view, is to cut labor, which it doesn’t do. What it does is allow for layoffs of well paid labor and rehire at a lower pay as AI jockeys who just clean up the mess after it.

              The hate is grounded on a lot of factors which the “worst it will ever be” argument completely misses the point on.

            • ⛓️‍💥
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              AI will never improve to the point where it can be considered trustworthy.

          • @[email protected]
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            They don’t hallucinate, they just believe everything they read on the internet. They are basically Republicans.

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                Are you talking about AI or Republicans, because that could go either way.

                And it’s the default behavior in Brave search.

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                  You don’t search republicans for answers.

                  If that’s the default in brave, either change it or use a different browser. I used duck duck go for searches and I shut off all AI “help”

        • @[email protected]
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          Counter point: Lemmy has always been more toxic.

          I’ve never seen a group (as a whole) that’s less capable of accepting that there are things they don’t know, or other viewpoints.

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        I don’t blindly trust AI responses. However, that was way too concerning not to ask about it, considering that I work from home and that we use Teams.

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            Have you done a brave search recently? It automatically tries to answer.

            It’s actually been surprisingly good for me. Better than Google, at least. But it’s not a choice on his part, it’s default behavior.

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            I wish I could. However, the device belongs to the company. And sometimes we need the cameras. We used to have Thinkpads with built-in switch-like mechanism that blocks the webcam, but the newer laptops have their camera exposed.

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      It’s either my broken self or a symptom of the time that I cannot tell if this is a honest question. I hope it isn’t.

      Just in case: It’s not a real thing. Yet.

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        It was an honest question. I have seen various other horrible features, like Glassdoor allowing paying employers to remove negative ratings, so I freaked out a bit in case Teams has hidden features as well.

        I know this is shitpost, but since there was another indication of such feature existing (although untrustworthy - the Brave Search’s AI summary), I wanted to confirm.

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      Beyond the other answers stating that this isn’t real:

      Teams doesn’t do one off charges for functionality like this. All functionality is managed by licensing, managed through your workplace’s Azure tenant. Don’t have the license, don’t have the feature. Need the feature? Time to work with Microsoft billing to get you a new license (or additional one) and then your IT team to have the license applied to your account.

      There aren’t usually any upsells displayed to end users. In our environment we’ve only seen a rare “this functionality is not available on your license, go complain to your admin” type message, but usually it just doesn’t display unavailable options.

      On top of all that, Microsoft is dumb, but not this dumb. Last thing their team of lawyers would want is for them to be involved in some sort of “involuntary pornography” case or something.