Summary
Sen. Bernie Sanders is touring Iowa and Nebraska to rally against “the oligarchy,” aiming to energize progressives rather than launch a 2028 presidential bid.
At 83, he seeks to shape the Democratic Party’s future, arguing it lost in 2024 by neglecting working-class voters.
He hopes to influence budget battles and the 2026 midterms, targeting GOP lawmakers in battleground districts.
With Democrats lacking clear leadership, Sanders’ prominence and focus on economic inequality could define the party’s direction in the Trump-Musk era.
I love Bernie and I admire his tenacity even at 83. But it is not nearly enough by a mile and we should not be relying on 83 year old to generate paradigm shifts. Please, for the love of God, other decent people with influence. Step up.
AoC has been highly visible in news and media so she’s also giving it a go. I think one of our real issues is that leadership wise Jefferies is alright but Shumer is downright depressing.
Over the next two years we’ll see a constant push by establishment dems to push out the progressives because centrist politicians on both sides want to keep a pro-corporate status quo.
I was higher on Jeffries until I heard him interviewed by John Stewart. He said a bunch of nothing just like the rest of the party.
AOC’s interview was significantly better.
From Jon’s podcast? Wasn’t that a horrible interview? Jon starts put saying “what’s the plan instead of just saying you have to get the message out” and Jeffries doubles down on “branding”.
Its really disheartening to see that bullshit gaslighting is still the MO of the Democrats going forward. Every word of that interview was more of the same old shit, and unfortunately Jon didn’t push back on him at all.
Yes it was a bad interview hence me saying he said a bunch of nothing.
Jeffries is horribly corrupt and a total stooge for monied interests. Don’t let his PR team fool you.
But but but he rhymes at times like johnnie cochran when he’s on and rockin!
Surely, that makes up for being a corporate drone that helps keep status quo fascism in place.
The Democrats succession planning was/is terrible, which is why an 83 year old independent is one of the few that can rally a crowd. I wish they had done better.
In German class, in Arizona, my German teacher taught us teenage edgelords about Hitler. About his speeches. About his Charisma. He was a cult of personality. He could rally a crowd. If there aren’t videos comparing trump rallies to Hitler, I suggest you make you’re own comparison, and use your own judgment. There’s a reason fascism wins. Hate doesn’t prosper under progressives.
I have a friend who’s really into serial killers and cults, like, he’s listened to the recordings of the final moments of the Jamestown Massacre where you can hear them forcing the Flavor-Aid down people’s throats as the rest gasp and choke and die in the background, and he says that Trump sounds just like Jim Jones. From his speech patterns to the tone of his voice, it gives him chills just how alike they sound.
Jonestown, or as I just learned it was also called, the Peoples Temple Agricultural Project
Thanks, I have no idea why my phone auto corrected to James.
the democratic peoples republic of temple
I have a friend who’s really into serial killers and cults
Yeah, uhhhh, keep an eye on that guy.
Yeah, it’s not bad planning.
They continue actively keeping the progressives and the younger leaders out of power.
(This is about AOC, not Bernie, but we all know they did him dirty at least twice already.)
Which is why he’s recruiting.
He’s not recruiting, he wants to drive working people and our movements back into the graveyard of the Democratic Party.
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WE are those other decent people with influence.
If you have any ability, run for office and start your campaign now. If not, find a progressive running and join their campaign.
If the democratic party won’t do their jobs, we need to fucking do it for them.
Please
Ok, good opener, I’m listening
for the love of God
Eh. Fuck that asshole sideways.
other decent people
We’re back on, yeah!
with influence.
Ah. That’s a no-go, sorry. Especially not in this fascist-breeding-pit climate…
Step up.
Hunh. Might be why the only guy stepping up is Bernie. He’s so old, he’s in Death’s phone contacts under “guy @ work”. 🙃
Democratic Socialists had a pretty serious recruiting campaign for the 2018 midterms. Cold-called potential candidates, offered training for both speechifying and organizing. Put up actual progressive candidates against incumbent dems in carefully chosen districts. That’s where “The Squad” came from.
Then they just kind of disappeared.
My point is that there are people out there willing to step up, but probably not thinking that they could be a “real” candidate and win, put up with the hassle and harrasment. People who would answer if called, but aren’t ready to jump in unasked. Bernie’s asking.
“Disappeared”? The Squad was literally targeted by the same fascists dismantling our nation this very moment (and those other cowards fired before them) until The Squad’s efforts were off the first few pages… and relegated to those who actually read (the Venn of that group and fans of The Squad is almost a single circle). FWIW, “disappeared” is exactly what the opposition prefers us to believe. Don’t.
Of the 5 current US reps with DSA history, DSA only endorsed 1 in 2024. They don’t even support AOC anymore. Maybe they’ve just refocused their efforts on state level races - which are definitely more ‘winnable’ and definitely an important part of building a pipeline to national office - but far less visible to people who don’t live in any targeted districts. To my view, they’re not the national joke that the Green party is, but they’re much harder to see than they were six years ago.
Fuck the Democrats™, in office or otherwise; they’re not your friends or neighbors, and have shown they’re capable of nothing more than jerking the ripcord when the Turd Reich yells “Pull!”
How many clays get launched before we legit recognize this isn’t just for practice? Sub-question: how many rounds would you guess before your “turn” down the slide, into the sky and their iron sights, fellow pigeon(s)?
✊🏼 The revolution may not be televised, but if anyone out there is waiting to catch the reaction vids first before forming an opinion? You’re not in traffic, you are the traffic. Pick a lane.
Hey Bernie if you need some blood or a kidney or something lemme know.
Give us the word Bernie, we can find a whole bunch of blood and kidneys for you.
I mean I need to keep some, guys
It’s fine, we’ll just donate to you once you run out. Then you can keep donating. 👌💪
Just clarifying, are you offering your blood or kidney, or do you just like have a bunch sitting around?
I would give Bernie Sanders a blood donation no question.
Edit I would give him a blood marrow donation no question. Aware of the discomfort and recovery.
I would legitimately consider giving him a kidney, after certain private conversations and understanding.
If I can source him a nice kidney, lemme call my guy
I would be willing to source it from outside if needed. He’s a real one.
83 and he’s still got that dog in him.
While I feel bernie wants to save capitalism from itself rather then replace it, I have to admire the persistence. I would have died 3 deaths of despair if I would have gone through what he has. And to just watch the nation melt around you no matter what you do or say.
Bernie Sanders is a stronger man then me
Yep, he won’t bite the hand that feeds him. He’s a good doggy. Barks loud but when it matters he does exactly what master says.
If you look at his vote record he hasn’t bowed to anyone, even when he’s been the only senator voting against something
he’s been the only senator voting against something>
I have literally said this in another comment. He and other fake progressives do this when they are absolutely sure it will have no consequences. Not when it’s possibly a close call. Pure empty virtue signaling.
I’ll copy another comment on his voting habbits tho :
VOTED in favor of almost every US invasion in the following nations: Afghanistan, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Syria, Yemen, Yugoslavia,2, Bosnia, Haiti, Congo, Liberia, Sudan, and Ukraine. Even parroting the regime narrative that drones ‘are sellective’ and ‘take out the people they should’ while 90% they killed are innocent people. Be a “I am 100% pro-Israel” genocide supporter. VOTES in favour of the US aid to the Zionist settler-colony every time. VOTED in favor of a resolution that “reaffirms the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 . During the 2014 assault on Gaza, blatantly biased Senate resolutions S. Res 498 and S. Res 526 that fully condoned the Israeli assault and characterized it as “self-defense” were passed by unanimous consent. Although Sanders did not co-sponsor either resolution, he failed to register any formal objection (a resolution passes by unanimous consent if no objection is raised; as such, no vote is taken). To be clear, this is not the first time Sanders failed to speak up in Congress against Israel’s brutal assault of Gaza. In 2012, Sanders failed to register any objection against biased Senate resolution S. Res 599 that couched Israel’s bombing of Gaza as “self-defense” and that passed by unanimous consent; according to Human Rights organization B’Tselem, 167 Palestinians were killed, including at least 87 civilians (vs. 4 Israeli civilians). In 2009, biased Senate resolution S. Res 10 backed Israel’s assault on Gaza and yet again justified it as Israel’s “right to defend itself” without garnering any objection from Sanders (it passed by unanimous consent); according to B’Tselem, 1387 Palestinians were killed, including at least 773 civilians (vs. 3 Israeli civilians). In 2006, Sanders actually supported the brutal Israeli assault on Gaza and Lebanon during the war that killed 1191 Lebanese civilians per Amnesty International (vs. 43 Israeli civilians killed) when he VOTED Yea to House resolution H. Res 921.
He can speech, object, condemn or whatever he does. It’s empty words.
Just some life advice. I’m not sure what you’re trying to accomplish with your comment, but a fairly awful person once said: however beautiful your strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
Really, there’s nothing wrong with being an idealist but at some point you need to work with what you have.
Gabage lesser evil take if not gaslighting. This has systematically led to even worse candidates. Culminating in an actual genocider, all the same endorsed by people like precious Bernie.
This is not ‘working with what you have’, this is keeping that horrible system in place. People can vote 3rd party, you know how people in real democracies did. I’ve seen it happen plenty with hopeless parties getting 3% at first then groing every few years to eventually winning.
And it’s very clear ‘what I’m trying to do’ since it’s very obvious. Exposing Sanders for the fake progressive he is so less people fall for his BS and waste their vote.
Also I resent this loaded question as if I had some evil motive. Here’s my life advice:
“Two roads diverged in a wood, and I… I took the one less traveled by, and that has made all the difference.”
In other words, grow some balls if you actually care and want to change something.
I don’t think you’re wrong, I don’t think you’re quite right either. I do like what you’re getting at. Bernie, relatively speaking, is way better than the other candidates we can currently choose from. That’s what I’m getting at, you’re attacking someone on a single issue and ignoring everything else they say and do. Hardly anybody will listen to you. They’re writing you off as a weird, single issue voter. Don’t you think your issues would have a better shot of being addressed if there were more people like Bernie in congress? Seems like abstaining instead of choosing the lesser evil also isn’t working.
People can vote 3rd party, you know how people in real democracies did. I’ve seen it happen plenty with hopeless parties getting 3% at first then groing every few years to eventually winning.
Won’t happen in the US unless we get some form of ranked choice voting.
Look at the last 25 years or so from the various Election wikis:
2000 - Green (Nader) 2.74%, Reform (Buchanan) 0.43%, Libertarian 0.36%, Constitution 0.09%, Natural Law 0.08%.
2004 - Reform 0.38% (Nader this time instead of Buchanan), Libertarian 0.32%, Constitution 0.12%, Green 0.10%, Peace and Freedom 0.02%, Socialist 0.01%, Socialist Workers 0.01%, Christian Freedom 0.002%.
2008 - Nader 0.56%, Libertarian 0.4%, Constitution 0.15%, Green 0.12%, America’s Independent Party 0.04%
2012 - Libertarian 0.99%, Green 0.36% (Jill Stein), Constitution 0.09%, Peace and Freedom 0.05% (Roseanne Barr), Justice 0.03%, America’s 0.03%.
2016 - Libertarian 3.28%, Green 1.07% (Jill Stein), Independant 0.54%, Constitution 0.15%, Socialism and Liberation 0.05%.
2020 - Libertarian 1.18%, Green 0.26% (Howie Hawkins), Reform 0.19%.
2024 - Green (Jill Stein) 0.56%, RFK Jr. 0.49%, Libertarian 0.42%.
The best shot any 3rd party had was Nader in 2000 and the Libertarians in 2016. All other races? Yeah, no. You know it’s bad when you can add up ALL the 3rd parties across multiple elections and still not crack 3%.
You mean THIS house resolution 921?
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-resolution/921
H.Res.921 - Honoring the 30th anniversary of the National Guard Youth Challenge Program. 118th Congress (2023-2024)
I think I smell bullshit
NO, https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/BILLS-109hres921ih/pdf/BILLS-109hres921ih.pdf from 2006.
Nice try tho.
You’ve got nothing
You’ve got a shit attitude and folks won’t listen until you fix yourself.
If they can’t take the truth it’s their problem. They have been screwing themselves for centuries continuing this uniparty BS and their token progressives. AOC can take over from him and they can continue for centuries more. Me personally am doing great and none of this, whoever wins anything affects me in the least. I just don’t get how people can vote against their own interests. Then again there’s black and latinos for Trump so there doesn’t seem to be much logic in people’s reasoning.
You Gaza people are getting old and your hissy fits are helping the downfall of American democracy. Please tell me, what other genocides are going on right now? what other conflicts do you know about? Ukraine is a war of self defense you muppet.
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Troll
Lame and weak.
Piss baby.
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You certainly are.
He and other fake progressives do this when they are absolutely sure it will have no consequences.
Not when it’s possibly a close call. Pure empty virtue signaling.
First off, based on everything else he does - who fucking cares fr What a great way to both share your stance on an issue and garner attention for your causes - stand out. It’s both harmless and clever - in American Politics even.
TF is this opinion?
Who cares about his VOTING? The only thing that actually has effect. Right, “but he SAYS what we think so well” that’s what important to you? Great take.
Your claim is that “Bernie being the only one voting ‘no’ is virtue signaling.” where my point is that if you know a vote is going to pass or fail, you might as well either stand out of use that opportunity to voice your opinion. If a vote is going to pass regardless of Bernies vote, who care if he wants to use that as a catalyst to spread his message, ideas, and opinions.
I have posted an extensive list of his horrible pro-war empire and zionist voting. Leave the " to voice your opinion…a catalyst to spread his message, ideas, and opinions." for the brochure. The only thing he’s spreading is the illusion there is place for progressives in that horrible party and to keep gullible people away from 3rd parties that actually want change. End of convo
How in the hell are you hating on Bernie Sanders of all people you could hate on?
I hate hypocrites more than the ones not even pretending. This rat has just as much blood on his hands as Genocide Joe, Copmala, Trump or whoever.
lol no and its not even close
Please give examples lol
We suffer from a lack of critical thinking in America. Most people cant see past the end of their noses.
Haha what?
Just more disinformation. They’ll throw anything at him in hopes that it sticks. They have no idea how to handle decades of sincere authenticity and prescience.
Just more disinformation LOL shouldn’t that be RUZZIAN disinformation? I throw FACTS, you have nothing but baseless slander.
Here’s just a small part of your great hero’s decades of sincere authenticity and prescience track record, you must’ve missed that:
VOTED in favor of almost every US invasion in the following nations: Afghanistan, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Syria, Yemen, Yugoslavia,2, Bosnia, Haiti, Congo, Liberia, Sudan, and Ukraine. Even parroting the regime narrative that drones ‘are sellective’ and ‘take out the people they should’ while 90% they killed are innocent people. Be a “I am 100% pro-Israel” genocide supporter. VOTES in favour of the US aid to the Zionist settler-colony every time. VOTED in favor of a resolution that “reaffirms the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 . During the 2014 assault on Gaza, blatantly biased Senate resolutions S. Res 498 and S. Res 526 that fully condoned the Israeli assault and characterized it as “self-defense” were passed by unanimous consent. Although Sanders did not co-sponsor either resolution, he failed to register any formal objection (a resolution passes by unanimous consent if no objection is raised; as such, no vote is taken). To be clear, this is not the first time Sanders failed to speak up in Congress against Israel’s brutal assault of Gaza. In 2012, Sanders failed to register any objection against biased Senate resolution S. Res 599 that couched Israel’s bombing of Gaza as “self-defense” and that passed by unanimous consent; according to Human Rights organization B’Tselem, 167 Palestinians were killed, including at least 87 civilians (vs. 4 Israeli civilians). In 2009, biased Senate resolution S. Res 10 backed Israel’s assault on Gaza and yet again justified it as Israel’s “right to defend itself” without garnering any objection from Sanders (it passed by unanimous consent); according to B’Tselem, 1387 Palestinians were killed, including at least 773 civilians (vs. 3 Israeli civilians). In 2006, Sanders actually supported the brutal Israeli assault on Gaza and Lebanon during the war that killed 1191 Lebanese civilians per Amnesty International (vs. 43 Israeli civilians killed) when he VOTED Yea to House resolution H. Res 921.
You don’t have to like him, but you’re the one being a fucking weird freak about it.
No politician ever will ever be 100% in line with what you want. I think it’s very shameful that he voted in favor of Rubio, doesn’t make everything else he’s done irrelevant.
Grow up.
What a waste of your time that was.
Good. Let them burn their life away.
I dunno, feels fairly productive — I got three blocks out of just one thread.
Go recycle yourself into something more useful, please.
He’s never been anything other than a sheepdog for the DNC.
Lol You know it’s a post-truth world when the most consistent, anti-corruption senator is the one “doing exactly what master says”. Obligatory no one’s perfect and we should call out bad behavior from anyone, but feel free to compare him to a more moral current US politican. Please, I’ll wait…
Once again he’s gonna dog anyone who supports him.
I think the only way the Democrat party meets the current moment is if an AOC or Bernie or similar wins the next presidential primary and aggressively replaces the current leadership.
First they’ll need to fight to even have a fair election in 2026 and 2028. (Hell, even to have an election).
“elections” are a cornerstone of autocracies. There will definitely be an election event.
Whether your vote is even counted is another question entirely. Same for whether you will be allowed to cast a ballot.
I’m not even talking about saving democracy yet, I’m just talking about whether or not the democrats earn a “You tried” sticker.
Going to be hard for a progressive to win a primary when the corporate dems flood those campaigns with DNC money for the opposition, or worse just steal the nomination flat-out.
Current leadership will never let that happen. They will ride the wreckage of our nation into the ground rather than let the party move left or allow substantial power in the hands of non-boomers. We just have to wait for them to die of old age.
Pelosi Won. The Democratic Party Lost.
(Pelosi is silent generation ffs! She should have had her hands removed from the levers of power decades ago.)
Also:
agreed, but of the 448 votes for electing dnc party leadership, 248 were dnc insiders, and 200 were handpicked by the dnc to vote, from the pool of state leislators. Theres no way at all to take control of the dnc in any hostile manner. Its just not possible.
So, in the USA, the current presidential candidate of a party is also automatically the head of the party? How do they expect any human to fulfill both roles competently at once?
The sudden rush of tankies in the comments indicates to me that this is a strong enough move to make some oligarchs worried.
I’ll never understand the tankies label
The way I think of it is as follows: if you like the idea of socialism or communism, and you think the only way to get there is to have an authoritative leader “clean house” before they for some reason or another decide to give the power back to the people, then you are a tankie.
In my opinion, an authoritative leader will never give up power back to the people willingly. Or if an authoritative gets in charge, it will never dismantle systems like capitalism because capitalists give authoritative people power.
Another good hint is if they really like the idea of murdering billionaires even if there are less violent solutions to it. I’m not saying that there are currently less violent solutions. I’m just saying they will never go out of their way for less violent solutions. As if they like the idea of murder a lot.
because it’s stupid
I’d say unnecessary. Unless you’re using it as a slur
the fake progressives 100% use this as a slur.
Your mom married her cousin
sad cringe slander
Is a tankie someone who blindly supports the military indistrial complex? Or is it someone who loves tank sized SUVs?
They’re blind apologists for the various left regimes that have identified themselves as leftist, anti-imperialist, anti-western, sometimes even including North Korea and Cambodia under Pol Pot. Often they align themselves with right-wing governments like modern Russia and Iran, because they’re against the geopolitical west.
The term was coined after the USSR rolled tanks into Hungary in the 50’s to squash pro (Socialist) democracy protests. Some leftists stuck with the Soviets as they matched into Hungary and Praugue, and others spoke out against what they saw as tyrannical repression of democracy.
tankie is one who says all the mass murders, genocide, rape et all communists have done historically didnt exist\was okay.
have done historically didnt exist\was okay.
More like “didn’t exist, but was okay even if it did” lol.
Yes
is a strong enough move LOL I wonder what “high-profile offensive” means? More empty virtue signalling. Yes, complain about the tankies and support this worthless larper. I’m sure the oligarch will be sooo scared of Bernie’s harsh objections, condemnations and intentions.
Bernie 2016
Bernie 2020
Bernie 2024Fuck the Democrats
Bernie told me to vote for the Democrat every time he lost the primary to them, I did what Bernie told me.
Exactly. Read any of his books. He understands that the only way a progressive party will ever gain power in this country is by running as Democrats and exerting progressive political capital to reform the Democratic party.
Bernie knows that the most staple progressive issues are wildly popular with the American people, and he knows probably better than anyone alive in this country today that progressives are up against on oligarchy with unlimited control over the media and unlimited financial and human resources to fight progressive agendas, and get he still fights. Why? See point two: progressive policy is wildly popular in the United States and we outnumber the billionaires.
There’s no reason we can’t fix that by implementing rank choice voting. It works great in several places in the US.
Yes, the lesser genocide choice. Sometimes the game is too obvious.
It must be exhausting have your head lodged up your ass all the time.
do you have an argument somewhere?
Not with you. That’s pointless.
That would be a waste of effort on someone like you.
How sad is this? Do you need an alt account or is it really two of you together not able tostring an argument together and only offer lame attempts at insults? Is Reddit down?
Is Reddit down? You tell us, five day old account.
lol
Debbie Wasserman Schultz is a corrupt criminal who should be in jail.
What? Fuck the Democrats but not this one in particular?
Democrats as in the DNC party, who in their corporate interests refuses to promote and push for candidates that have fought for the people.
Also Bernie is an independent who works closely with democrats, because unfortunately we’re essentially stuck with a two party system.
Bernie might as well be in the party and endorsed their prefered corporate ghouls. Genocide Joe TWICE (changing his choice from horrible Hillary). He is there to play his role (like AOC and others of the cringe squad) and will always tow the party line in a vote. He will go against it when it’s sure to lose. Pure virtue signalling. He will talk the talk, never walk the walk. Imagine that, a politician lying!
we’re essentially stuck with a two party system.
Sure if you keep voting for them.
What walk do you want him to walk? What do you want him to do differently? Specifically.
What do you do to walk that walk? Specifically.
VOTING is walking the walk, very simple. What do I want him to do differently? Specifically?
maybe not be a warmonger. VOTED in favor of almost every US invasion in the following nations: Afghanistan, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Syria, Yemen, Yugoslavia,2, Bosnia, Haiti, Congo, Liberia, Sudan, and Ukraine. Even parroting the regime narrative that drones ‘are sellective’ and ‘take out the people they should’ while 90% they killed are innocent people. Be a “I am 100% pro-Israel” genocide supporter. VOTES in favour of the US aid to the Zionist settler-colony every time. VOTED in favor of a resolution that “reaffirms the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 . During the 2014 assault on Gaza, blatantly biased Senate resolutions S. Res 498 and S. Res 526 that fully condoned the Israeli assault and characterized it as “self-defense” were passed by unanimous consent. Although Sanders did not co-sponsor either resolution, he failed to register any formal objection (a resolution passes by unanimous consent if no objection is raised; as such, no vote is taken). To be clear, this is not the first time Sanders failed to speak up in Congress against Israel’s brutal assault of Gaza. In 2012, Sanders failed to register any objection against biased Senate resolution S. Res 599 that couched Israel’s bombing of Gaza as “self-defense” and that passed by unanimous consent; according to Human Rights organization B’Tselem, 167 Palestinians were killed, including at least 87 civilians (vs. 4 Israeli civilians). In 2009, biased Senate resolution S. Res 10 backed Israel’s assault on Gaza and yet again justified it as Israel’s “right to defend itself” without garnering any objection from Sanders (it passed by unanimous consent); according to B’Tselem, 1387 Palestinians were killed, including at least 773 civilians (vs. 3 Israeli civilians). In 2006, Sanders actually supported the brutal Israeli assault on Gaza and Lebanon during the war that killed 1191 Lebanese civilians per Amnesty International (vs. 43 Israeli civilians killed) when he VOTED Yea to House resolution H. Res 921.
He can speech, object, condemn or whatever he does. It’s empty words.
What do you do to walk that walk? Specifically. Don’t divert and make it about me.
Oh, good. You’re braindead and I can just not even finish reading that. Once I got to the 3rd blatantly false lie, I stopped caring.
Once I got to the 3rd blatantly false lie.
Care to back up your slanderous claim?
That corporate wing of the party, the clintonites, etc, are losing power.
The writing on the wall can’t be any more clear than it is right now.
In 2016, 2020, and 2024, they could still argue that people wanted a more middle ground. That ship is sailed.
Bernie is not a democrat
PROTECT THIS MAN AT ALL COST
From what? Most of the attacks against him come from behind him.
From the DNC
Attacks? He is playing his role like AOC and the rest of them. The dems need these harmless larpers to pretend they have something progressive to offer. When it comes down to it, every time they vote for war, zionist genocide and endorses the big oligarch choices in his horrible party.
Anyone else remember years ago when all Democrats hated Bernie. But now that he toes the party line for four years, they love him.
We’ll have to give him the Emperor of Mankind treatment if this continues.
“I am not a(n)
godEmperor, and you shouldn’t want me to be one”-EoMBernie.Are we implying Bernie is an S tier psyker, I’m down for it
I would love it if Bruva did several episodes featuring Bernie and AOC.
At this point some Democrats need to splinter off with the simple litmus test of opposing the oligarchs.
That much splintering won’t leave much tree remaining
That’s the point…
What’s the point of saving a tree whose fruits are unpopular and the nutrition is lacking? It is common to fell trees that are past their fruiting prime to make way for a younger crop.
Worked for the Republicans?
The “splinter” of the Republicans was created on behalf of, backed by, and directly benefited the corporate oligarchy and their capital.
The splintering of the left to hold those same corporate oligarchs responsible — threatening their wealth and power — will not be backed by corporations or their capital. It will be ruthlessly attacked by them, and if the threat becomes more than just a fringe movement the response will be the full force of the fascist dictatorship, the propaganda machine, surveillance state/capitalism, and MIC (e.g. death camps, mass murder, etc).
But it should still happen, because the chance of success diminishes with every position fascists fill… If it doesn’t happen sooner than later it’ll probably never happen.
This honestly isn’t a bad idea at this point. It would still take a ton of money, a ton of support, a ton of boots on the ground to achieve though. It would really need to snowball into a movement. Who are the superfriends of “Fuck you, pay Americans fairly” kind of politicians?
“If the Democrats listened to Bernie, we wouldn’t be in this mess. I assume he feels a deep level of disgust.”
Fuck, at this point I’d take a bullet for this guy.
Candidly, he’d probably fight you on that, preferring you carry the torch.
In fact, he’d rather we start carrying the torch before he even dies. AOC can’t do this alone.
AOC can’t do this alone.
Do what? Vote to keep the rail corporation from any union strikes? I think she has that under control.
I’m subscribed to both his YT channels and he’s been running a full offensive for decades, nothing seems to be changing recently on that front.
Real Question - Bernie Sanders is old; it’s 83. If Bernie passes - who carries on his message? AOC? Who fr? You?
Which, in my opinion, the message is honest outreach to people, IRL, and share the message that Billionares are buying our Politicians which needs to be addressed (like, the sooner the better)?
Luigi
AOC couldn’t carry that message if her life depended on it. She’d turn some 20 years old white kids into slacktivists and collect donations before reinforcing the status quo.
Are there videos of these rallies that can be shared so more people know about this?
I admire Bernie but most Trump supporters I met or know seem either very rich, or poor but quite believe he will turn things around and things getting worse before it gets better is ok. We are talking about cult, expecting them being rational is dead end.
The Bernie-Trump pipeline is a very real thing, surprisingly, so if and only if one is as progressive as Bernie or AOC there is value in such an endeavor.
That’s what the SS stands for now. Selfish or stupid. Or both, honestly.
